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Old 06-16-2009, 11:20 AM
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George Bush Stood With Democracy Activists-- Obama Stands With Dictators

“All who live in tyranny and hopelessness can know: the United States will not ignore your oppression, or excuse your oppressors. When you stand for your liberty, we will stand with you.”
President George W. Bush
Second Inaugural Speech
January 20, 2005


Clockwise from top left: Bush promoting religious freedom in China, Bush is posted on placards in Azerbaijan, Bush is mobbed in Albania, Iraqi women carry Bush photos with them to the polling station on election day.

President Bush’s made this pledge to political dissidents and freedom activists in 2005, "We will stand with you." And, the oppressed took him at his word. There was an Orange Revolution in Ukraine, a Tulip Revolution in Kyrgyzstan, and a Cedar Revolution in Lebanon that spring. There were democratic elections in Afghanistan where women were not only allowed to vote but took seats in parliament. There were democratic elections for the first time in the United Arab Emirates. Saudi Arabia released political dissidents. There were Arab democracy conferences in Qatar and women were allowed to vote in Kuwait. Egyptian judges stood up against a regime. Another regime in Libya opened up to the West. And who could forget the Iraqis who walked for miles, braving terrorist death threats, to vote in free democratic elections for the very first time.

Later in 2007, President Bush delivered an inspirational speech at the Prague Democracy and Security Conference, before dozens of political dissidents representing 17 different countries:
“In this room are dissidents and democratic activists from 17 countries on five continents. You follow different traditions, you practice different faiths, and you face different challenges. But you are united by an unwavering conviction: that freedom is the non-negotiable right of every man, woman, and child, and that the path to lasting peace in our world is liberty...

The most powerful weapon in the struggle against extremism is not bullets or bombs — it is the universal appeal of freedom. Freedom is the design of our Maker, and the longing of every soul. Freedom is the best way to unleash the creativity and economic potential of a nation. Freedom is the only ordering of a society that leads to justice. And human freedom is the only way to achieve human rights...

In my second inaugural address, I pledged America to the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world. Some have said that qualifies me as a “dissident president.”

If standing for liberty in the world makes me a dissident, I wear that title with pride.”
President Bush later met with democracy activists from Burma on the twenty year anniversary of the bloody 8888 Protests in Burma. And before he left office in December 2008 President Bush met with dissident bloggers on Human Rights Day.

But those days are over. There's a new administration in town with a new set of rules and a new set of priorities. Persecuted political dissidents and brave democracy activists do not rank high on the list.

Already this year the Obama Administration has waived sanctions on Syria, considered opening travel to Cuba, announced plans to drop sanctions against the murderous junta in Burma, reportedly approved Sharia Law in the tribal regions of Pakistan in exchange for a bogus peace treaty, praiseddiscussed holding talks with the Iranian regime, and accepted China's human rights abuses. That's quite a record and it hasn't even been 200 days since they took office. the Venezuelan "democracy,"

In February seven former Iranian student prisoners wrote a letter to President Obama and urged him to support the democratic movement of the Iranian people. Their letter went unanswered. It should come as no surprise then that as chaos broke out this weekend in Iran over a very controversial election result the Obama Administration fell silent.

Last year George Bush told the Iranian people:
My message to the young in Iran is that someday your society will be free. And it will be a blessed time for you. My message to the women of Iran is that the women of America share your deep desire for children to grow up in a hopeful society and to live in peace.
This weekend as rioting broke out across Iran the Obama administration released this statement:
"This is a debate among Iranians about Iran's future."
Less than 24 hours after the flawed results were announced by the official media the Obama Administration announced that they would engage with the regime.

No one knows how this situation will develop in Iran. No one knows how much more blood will flow in the streets. No one knows if there will be more rooftop shootings. No one knows if there will more deaths reported and arrests made. But one thing is certain. The Iranian people do not have the same support from Washington today. The dissident president has left the White House.
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ARMY Moving Into Tehran Against Protesters!

This just broke on Twitter.....
CONFIRMED!! Army moving into Tehran against protesters! PLEASE RT! URGENT!

There were 8 confirmed deaths after the shootings yesterday in Azadi Square.

36 were wounded. Mousavi supporters are wearing black today to mourn the dead from yesterday's protest.



June 15: Fire burns at a Basij militia base after a rally in support of former presidential candidate Mirhossein Mousavi in western Tehran. (Reuters)
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Who cares....we have healthcare "reform" to ramrod thru....can't be distracted by something as insignificant as millions of people crying out for freedom.

Wonder what the reaction we'd be getting from the fucks we have "leading" us now would be if there was a huge Palestinian uprising against Netanyahu(?) right now.....betcha it wouldn't be the lukewarm "we gotta keep a close eye" pablum they;re puking right now.


Damn shame the Iranian "elections" weren't two years ago......they wouldn't being abandoned now....
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Who cares....we have healthcare "reform" to ramrod thru....can't be distracted by something as insignificant as millions of people crying out for freedom.

Wonder what the reaction we'd be getting from the fucks we have "leading" us now would be if there was a huge Palestinian uprising against Netanyahu(?) right now.....betcha it wouldn't be the lukewarm "we gotta keep a close eye" pablum they;re puking right now.


Damn shame the Iranian "elections" weren't two years ago......they wouldn't being abandoned now...
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I was thinking that same thing... first they had Carter 01 fuck them with supporting the mullahs that started all this shit and now Pres Pantywaist/Carter 02 Admin who couldnt be fucking bothered - he's got Date night with Sasquatch tomorrow to plan...

maybe he can send a fucking Ipod with some of his vacuous vapid speeches on them.... or some DVDs they cant play.

Fucking moron.
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Old 06-16-2009, 06:43 PM
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I was thinking that same thing... first they had Carter I fuck them with supporting the mullahs that started all this shit and now Pres Pantywaist who couldnt be fucking bothered - he's got Date night with Sasquatch tomorrow to plan...

maybe he can send a fucking Ipod with some of his vacuous vapid speeches on them.... or some DVDs they cant play.

Fucking moron.
No, this started with Eisenhower who decided he would overthrow a democratically elected government. All you have to do is google and find out.

We need to leave Iran alone and let them do what they need to do in order to get what they want. Obama is doing the right thing.

Because you canot force democracy upon people by the force of an outside military force. It has to be something they are willing to fight and die for.
Plus they do not want us interfering and our not doing so would show thenm that our country has changed in its perception of the Iranian people

Its simple to demand military force when you don't have to serve.

And beanz, the pictures those people are carrying of Bush are in protest of Bush not support. "We want freedom" with a Bush picture on it is an apparent show of this, dumb ass.

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Wonder what the reaction we'd be getting from the fucks we have "leading" us now would be if there was a huge Palestinian uprising against Netanyahu(?) right now.....betcha it wouldn't be the lukewarm "we gotta keep a close eye" pablum they;re puking right now.
And I bet it would.

This is the type of "psychotalk" thats got to end.
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You heard it on Twitter? One thing for sure, the obamanation controlled media won't be reporting anything our dictator doesn't want us to know, not with the media housed in the White House. Without direct reports, we won't know a thing.

obamanation can't do anything. Ahmadinejad, as a tiny little thing that he is knows he's a man and obamanation isn't.
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tipsy,

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You heard it on Twitter? One thing for sure, the obamanation controlled media won't be reporting anything our dictator doesn't want us to know, not with the media housed in the White House. Without direct reports, we won't know a thing.

obamanation can't do anything. Ahmadinejad, as a tiny little thing that he is knows he's a man and obamanation isn't.
So now twitter is the official source of fact and news. What do YOU want Obama to do about whats going on in Iran?

Because if he interferes, then the guy he supports will be seen as another american puppet and he will be violently opposed. So then just shut the hell up and wait for the Iranians to determine the outcome of this situation.
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So now twitter is the official source of fact and news. What do YOU want Obama to do about whats going on in Iran?

Because if he interferes, then the guy he supports will be seen as another american puppet and he will be violently opposed. So then just shut the hell up and wait for the Iranians to determine the outcome of this situation.
All you need do is look at the SUCCESSFUL pressure-positions taken in recent history.

Look at what Reagan's speeches in support of the strikers in Poland accomplished. Partly because of his strong stance; and partly because THE SOVIET UNION KNEW HE WASN'T JUST TALK.
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No, this started with Eisenhower who decided he would overthrow a democratically elected government. All you have to do is google and find out.

We need to leave Iran alone and let them do what they need to do in order to get what they want. Obama is doing the right thing.

Because you canot force democracy upon people by the force of an outside military force. It has to be something they are willing to fight and die for.
Plus they do not want us interfering and our not doing so would show thenm that our country has changed in its perception of the Iranian people

Its simple to demand military force when you don't have to serve.

And beanz, the pictures those people are carrying of Bush are in protest of Bush not support. "We want freedom" with a Bush picture on it is an apparent show of this, dumb ass.



And I bet it would.

This is the type of "psychotalk" thats got to end.
Psychotalk like...."hope and change?" "Yes we can?"


What will you people say if Iran's dictators unleash like your Red Chinese friends did? Will we still need to "keep a close eye" then? THAT'S the babble that kills......
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This time in Iran could spell the fullfillment of George Bush's legacy and the beginning of his reputation as an American hero! What do you think? If there is a new Iranian revolution, and a more democratic state arises from it, that is exactly what the Bush Administration was predicting by going into Iraq, is it not?

This policy was driven by the "neocons" from The Project For The New American Century, many of which were part of that Administration. Perhaps what once seemed like a dismal failed policy is triggering the dawn of a new day in Iran.
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