What a bunch of crap [Archive]

tileman

01-22-2003, 12:44 PM

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/news/local/5003947.htm

I say reinstate the dude, and can the two wimpering weasles.

01-22-2003, 01:35 PM

What a load of horse shit. According to the procedures pamphlet he did the right thing, and he only did if the family had a chapel service. Believe me if they weren't Christian they wouldn't have had a chapel service.

He wasn't stopping family and preaching to them or anything. He was simply offering his condolences in the best way he knew how.

tileman

01-22-2003, 01:52 PM

Pretty generically at that.

wendy

01-22-2003, 08:44 PM

This is stupid. As long as he obeyed the protocal and only offered a blessing to receptive families, what the hell is the problem? It's not like he was at a Jewish funeral talking about Jesus. ::)

Lance

01-23-2003, 05:59 AM

Geez, that was stupid. ::) I pretty much support separation of chruch and state, but that was way over the top and completely uncalled for given the circumstances.

01-23-2003, 02:15 PM

He deviated from protocol and deserved to be fired. Next thing you'll have guys say Allah is Great and get away with it.

01-23-2003, 06:59 PM

He deviated from protocol and deserved to be fired. Next thing you'll have guys say Allah is Great and get away with it.

No he didn't. He completely followed protocol and got fired for it.

guido

01-25-2003, 04:32 PM

He deviated from protocol and deserved to be fired. Next thing you'll have guys say Allah is Great and get away with it.

No he didn't. He completely followed protocol and got fired for it.

No, he didn't. Although, it's obvious that the powers that be, in this case, had a hard-on for Christianity, the fact remains that the next of kin did NOT express any wishes for a Christian blessing, as is called for in protocol: " "If the next of kin has expressed a religious preference or belief," the instructions continue, "add: 'God bless you and this family, and God bless the United States of America.' "

What I get out of this whole thing, is that they set him up. They were offended by the Christian persuasion evident in the blessing, and set him up, because they knew they'd be rid of him.

01-25-2003, 04:55 PM

He deviated from protocol and deserved to be fired. Next thing you'll have guys say Allah is Great and get away with it.

No he didn't. He completely followed protocol and got fired for it.

No, he didn't. Although, it's obvious that the powers that be, in this case, had a hard-on for Christianity, the fact remains that the next of kin did NOT express any wishes for a Christian blessing, as is called for in protocol: " "If the next of kin has expressed a religious preference or belief," the instructions continue, "add: 'God bless you and this family, and God bless the United States of America.' "

What I get out of this whole thing, is that they set him up. They were offended by the Christian persuasion evident in the blessing, and set him up, because they knew they'd be rid of him.

I hope he sues because he can win a wrongful termination suit.

Lazarus

01-25-2003, 04:55 PM

I think people are much too uptight.

:o

01-25-2003, 05:07 PM

I think people are much too uptight.

:o

You think?

Lazarus

01-25-2003, 05:19 PM

I think people are much too uptight.

:o

You think?

Definitely. I hink that the whole problem might have been solved if everyone entering the Armed Services would have simply EXPRESSED their wishes IN ADVANCE. Then, give them the sort of memorial service that they requested. The whole problem then goes away--does it not? ???

jeny

01-25-2003, 11:28 PM

Is a miltary officer really representative of the whole government? I mean REALLY?

truelies

01-26-2003, 06:38 AM

Is a miltary officer really representative of the whole government? I mean REALLY?

From what I remember of the UCMJ, my conduct even off duty and out of uniform was subject to sanction if I behaved in a manner that my superiors regarded as bring discredit on the USA.

01-26-2003, 08:40 AM

Is a miltary officer really representative of the whole government? I mean REALLY?

From what I remember of the UCMJ, my conduct even off duty and out of uniform was subject to sanction if I behaved in a manner that my superiors regarded as bring discredit on the USA.

Well that I can understand, but this guy followed the written protocol to the letter. It was not implied in the article that he followed families around preaching to them. He simply said "God bless" to those who had obvious Christian funerals.

guido

01-26-2003, 12:59 PM

Is a miltary officer really representative of the whole government? I mean REALLY?

From what I remember of the UCMJ, my conduct even off duty and out of uniform was subject to sanction if I behaved in a manner that my superiors regarded as bring discredit on the USA.

Well that I can understand, but this guy followed the written protocol to the letter. It was not implied in the article that he followed families around preaching to them. He simply said "God bless" to those who had obvious Christian funerals.

I have to diagree that he followed protocol to the letter. I don't think he should've been fired over this, though. There are questionable motives here on the part of his superior. I do agree that he has reason to file a lawsuit.