WHAT IS JIHAD?

[buzaw]

What is Jihad
by Daniel Pipes
New York Post
December 31, 2002

http://danielpipes.org

This is enlightening, along with some posted comments below the article.

[buzaw]

And this concerning sniper Muhamad:

One important clue is that Muhammad is not an orthodox Muslim, but rather an adherent of the Chicago-based Nation of Islam (NOI). While professing a belief in the Koran, the NOI preaches a bizarre amalgam of mysticism, science fiction, and warped theology, wrapped up in race war rhetoric. Though no evidence has emerged that any NOI member apart from Muhammad was involved in the sniper killings, this connection presents the troubling possibility that the terror war’s next battlefield may be America’s cities — with street gangs allied to the international terrorist network providing the foot soldiers.

The Bush administration continues to speak ominously of the potential threat of "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq, and preparations are underway for American soldiers to conduct "urban warfare" in Baghdad. But if the terror network succeeds in turning our nation’s street gangs into a "weapon of mass insurrection," urban warfare on the home front will become a horrifying reality.

http://www.dadi.org/weapons.htm

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[buzaw]

As I've listened to the hate America speeches and statements on talk shows, etc, I see them capable of alligning with Eastern Jehad as America's merging agents of Jehad with folks like the gangs implementing much of the terroristic activity. Don't forget, so far as the Koran goes, the prophet taught that infidels were fair game for most any kind of treatment as he so clearly demonstrated himself.

[Slipped Mickey]

As I've listened to the hate America speeches and statements on talk shows, etc, I see them capable of alligning with Eastern Jehad as America's merging agents of Jehad with folks like the gangs implementing much of the terroristic activity. Don't forget, so far as the Koran goes, the prophet taught that infidels were fair game for most any kind of treatment as he so clearly demonstrated himself.


Buzz, How many times in your life - outside 11 September - have you, your family or your friends been assaulted, threatened, cursed or set upon by Muslims in the US?

[kathleen]

Don't forget, so far as the Koran goes, the prophet taught that infidels were fair game for most any kind of treatment as he so clearly demonstrated himself.


Hmmmmm, killing in the name of God. Why does that sound so familiar? ::)

[LanceALott]

According to the book I just read on Middle East history, by Benard Lewis, the Muslims are committed to keep the Jihad going until the whole world is Islam.

There are also some enlightening and scarry inscriptions in the Dome of the Rock. I posted themn on the other thread about Islam, the one Buzz apparently commented on and never read.

I Have been told Lewis is a conservative Jew, but I did not think he slanted his history from Christ to the present in any way at all. In fact he revealed some rather interesting things about how Israel was created, who helped, and who tried to stop them, things I found revealing and new to me; and his history does not always put the Jewsor an religious group in a favorable light.

" According to the book I just read on Middle East history, by Benard Lewis, the Muslims are committed to keep the Jihad going until the whole world is Islam..."



Junior Bush is committed to keeping it going til the entire United Snakes of America is Republican, right-wing, born again Christian.

[SENOR DON GATO]

JiHad is a Holy War. Crusades is a Holy War.

They are both acts so vile and evil and yet - they both use their own cult to justify them.

Ban religion. It is the only answer.

Religion is evil at its worst. Because it hides itself behind the brainwashing of 'good'.

[buzaw]

JiHad is a Holy War. Crusades is a Holy War.

They are both acts so vile and evil and yet - they both use their own cult to justify them.

Ban religion. It is the only answer.

Religion is evil at its worst. Because it hides itself behind the brainwashing of 'good'.


They communists tried banning religion last century to the tune of 60,000,000 dead. No, the answer is to get into the right religion. It's worked quite well for the majority of Americans these past two centuries.

[buzaw]

" According to the book I just read on Middle East history, by Benard Lewis, the Muslims are committed to keep the Jihad going until the whole world is Islam..."



Junior Bush is committed to keeping it going til the entire United Snakes of America is Republican, right-wing, born again Christian.


.........And your documentation for this is........??

[buzaw]

As I've listened to the hate America speeches and statements on talk shows, etc, I see them capable of alligning with Eastern Jehad as America's merging agents of Jehad with folks like the gangs implementing much of the terroristic activity. Don't forget, so far as the Koran goes, the prophet taught that infidels were fair game for most any kind of treatment as he so clearly demonstrated himself.


Buzz, How many times in your life - outside 11 September - have you, your family or your friends been assaulted, threatened, cursed or set upon by Muslims in the US?


Islam is just beginning to enter that terroristic stage in the US. Hang on to your hat. There'll be more n either you, I or some of our fellow citizens will be the victims. How do you know I wasn't in the plane what's his name is who's in prison not for the shoe bombing attempt. I'm not sayin I was, but I flew in Dec. across the country. One of his kind would've blew us outa tha sky given the opportunity.

[buzaw]

There are also some enlightening and scarry inscriptions in the Dome of the Rock. I posted themn on the other thread about Islam, the one Buzz apparently commented on and never read.


LAL, rest assured, if I commented on it I read it. I don't comment on all I read, but on what have time for and what I am most motivated to comment on. I'm sure you do the same, as does everyone else in town.

[truelies]

JiHad is a Holy War. Crusades is a Holy War.

They are both acts so vile and evil and yet - they both use their own cult to justify them.

Ban religion. It is the only answer.

Religion is evil at its worst. Because it hides itself behind the brainwashing of 'good'.


Got to disagree here. Irreligion has been a motive for more killing in the past 100 years and counting than has religion since day one.

I might also point out that the Crusades were defensive wars against a muslim invasion of the ME. Jihad and Crusade are in no way compatible.

[LanceALott]

Senator Don the Cat: JiHad is a Holy War. Crusades is a Holy War.
They are both acts so vile and evil and yet - they both use their own cult to justify them.
Ban religion. It is the only answer.
Religion is evil at its worst. Because it hides itself behind the brainwashing of 'good'.

Lance: Gently rides the Don. I am in agreement with your intent; but I am afraid we cannot ban religion.

Here is my derfinition of religion: That which is unknown and unknowable.

In Islam and Christianity and Juadism, Truth is God. But I'm afraid an idiot named Socrates trumped all three when he procalimed himself the smartest man in the world because he alone knew he knew nothing. Now tell me why the bare foot old fart was right.

[Slipped Mickey]

As I've listened to the hate America speeches and statements on talk shows, etc, I see them capable of alligning with Eastern Jehad as America's merging agents of Jehad with folks like the gangs implementing much of the terroristic activity. Don't forget, so far as the Koran goes, the prophet taught that infidels were fair game for most any kind of treatment as he so clearly demonstrated himself.


Buzz, How many times in your life - outside 11 September - have you, your family or your friends been assaulted, threatened, cursed or set upon by Muslims in the US?


Islam is just beginning to enter that terroristic stage in the US. Hang on to your hat. There'll be more n either you, I or some of our fellow citizens will be the victims. How do you know I wasn't in the plane what's his name is who's in prison not for the shoe bombing attempt. I'm not sayin I was, but I flew in Dec. across the country. One of his kind would've blew us outa tha sky given the opportunity.


The point is Buzz if Islam is the violent religion you say it is then we would have seen that violence here long before now. But the fact is Islam is not anymore violent than Christianity. We've been living side by side here, millions of us, for centuries. You've suddenly decided that Islam is about hatred and killing and murder. Based on the almost non-existence of violence against Christians the facts say your thought process is rectal. You are the one doing the hate mongering. Imagine that!

[ilovelucy]

Slipped.

In buz's defense somewhat, I will have to say that we are all being manipulated by media to see Islam as the new great enemy to mankind....Since 9/11, the pulsing rage has been steady and unabated.

I realize that there are very violent types who are so-called believers of Islam and that there is little room for open dissent within the belief system itself, which is rather sad, in my opinion...

anyway, just a thought. I have no real answers right now--just reading and taking the situation in as best as possible....

[buzaw]

As I've listened to the hate America speeches and statements on talk shows, etc, I see them capable of alligning with Eastern Jehad as America's merging agents of Jehad with folks like the gangs implementing much of the terroristic activity. Don't forget, so far as the Koran goes, the prophet taught that infidels were fair game for most any kind of treatment as he so clearly demonstrated himself.


Buzz, How many times in your life - outside 11 September - have you, your family or your friends been assaulted, threatened, cursed or set upon by Muslims in the US?


Islam is just beginning to enter that terroristic stage in the US. Hang on to your hat. There'll be more n either you, I or some of our fellow citizens will be the victims. How do you know I wasn't in the plane what's his name is who's in prison not for the shoe bombing attempt. I'm not sayin I was, but I flew in Dec. across the country. One of his kind would've blew us outa tha sky given the opportunity.


The point is Buzz if Islam is the violent religion you say it is then we would have seen that violence here long before now. But the fact is Islam is not anymore violent than Christianity. We've been living side by side here, millions of us, for centuries. You've suddenly decided that Islam is about hatred and killing and murder. Based on the almost non-existence of violence against Christians the facts say your thought process is rectal. You are the one doing the hate mongering. Imagine that!


The violence has been going on for a long time in places like Indonesia, Sudan and other nations of Africa, and the Mideast.

There's one very simple reason it has not been here. Imagration control. When Slick Willy opened the flood gate for votes, in the Islamics and Hispanics came. As the immigration laws and enforcement were relaxed and as the FBI and CIA were either stiffled or corrupted, the violence of Islam has become a reality even in the good ole US of A.

[buzaw]

Slipped,

In buz's defense somewhat, I will have to say that we are all being manipulated by media to see Islam as the new great enemy to mankind....


Well, if that's the case, they seem to be right for a change. What greater threat faces the world today?

[ilovelucy]

What greater threat?

Hatred and power lust and greed and a snide arrogance and contempt for one's fellow human beings....from several camps.....I agree Islam seems to be on a roll on this score--I think many are fired up for a Holy War....But, it isn't just Islam hating the West--we have other enemies as well in this country who are quite content to help see us go down the tubes...

THerefore, seal our borders and bring a lot of our military home to protect us for a change.....

imho

IF*UCKEDLUCY,

Your last post sounds like a description of Christianity led by Pope Bush, Junior I.