House Warming Gift

[WCP]

I just moved to a new "spot" at the park and I have been immediately surrounded by a whole slew of "gardeners." They are growing everything in pots everywhere. I was explaining to my new neighbor that it was my intention to "rob" his garden when he wasn't looking as I had been taught in my youth that the best fruits and vegetables are the stolen ones.

If you don't believe me...sneak out into some farmer's watermelon patch, swipe one for yourself and tell me I'm wrong.

Well, these people not knowing me took me at face value and have given me my own "garden" of tomatoes and some peppers with the suggestion "grow them yourself."

I thanked them profusely and am feeling welcome by these strangers. None of them "of color," btw.

It is still my intent to rob them blind when they're not looking.

[ponygurl]

Oh.. they are just trying to help you fit in with all the other "bluehairs". ;D

[WCP]

Oh.. they are just trying to help you fit in with all the other "bluehairs". ;D


Believe it or don't, the majority of people here are under 50. Oh, there's some "crisp" people here and there, but mostly they're just trailer trash...just like me.

Also, we are OUTRAGED at Lynndie England's behavior. She gives trailer trash a bad name.

[ponygurl]

Believe it or don't, the majority of people here are under 50. Oh, there's some "crisp" people here and there, but mostly they're just trailer trash...just like me.

Also, we are OUTRAGED at Lynndie England's behavior. She gives trailer trash a bad name.

I can just hear all the old biddies.. ::)

The other day my neighbor signed an okay slip for his little boy to go on a field trip … look where the field trip was. ::)


http://www.davesdaily.com/pictures/75-schooltrip.jpg

[ponygurl]

The other day my neighbor signed an okay slip for his little boy to go on a field trip … look where the field trip was. ::)


http://www.davesdaily.com/pictures/75-schooltrip.jpg

Oh brother.. ::) ;D
That bus was probably a prison bus.. ;D

[Persephone]

Don't forget to water them.

[WCP]

Don't forget to water them.


This is a "resort." That's what we have mexicans for.

[Persephone]

This is a "resort." That's what we have mexicans for.



Oh, right. Like the ones that keep the lot nice and clean so you don't have to go to Home Depot and buy your own leaf blower? :P

[Voxo]

Also, we are OUTRAGED at Lynndie England's behavior. She gives trailer trash a bad name.

C'mon - you aren't waiting to see the video? I am betting you will find it first, maybe even screen it for your neighbors.

[Voxo]

Oh, and a hearty HA to all of you. A white man mows the grass and tends to the flowers around here. (Not by my choice - anyway he fucks it up.)

[truelies]

I want a mexican to do lawn work. I feel unfortunate.


Use an arab- they look about the same and if the Help gets mouthy you can have them shipped to Gitmo.

Oh, and a hearty HA to all of you. A white man mows the grass and tends to the flowers around here. (Not by my choice - anyway he fucks it up.)



If you want something done right do it yourself.

[kathleen]

It is still my intent to rob them blind when they're not looking.


That isn't very nice. I'm sure they would share if you just asked them nicely.

Or grow some "different" plants and barter for their fresh veggies. ;D

[kathleen]

If you want something done right do it yourself.


Absolutely.

I wonder why one would hire someone else to do the yard work when it is such a delight to do. ;)

[Voxo]

If you want something done right do it yourself.

What can I say - you are right about that.

[ponygurl]

If you want something done right do it yourself.

Exactly. I also wonder if the people who comment.. " hire a mexican" really know how pathetic it sounds.

[WCP]

Exactly. I also wonder if the people who comment.. " hire a mexican" really know how pathetic it sounds.


About as pathetic as those who can't afford to hire one and are out in the hot sun sweating like a negro trying to writing a love letter doing this type of work. ;D

[Persephone]

Or people who are so pampered they think working up a sweat from a little honest physical labor is a fate worse than death. ;)

[WCP]

Or people who are so pampered they think working up a sweat from a little honest physical labor is a fate worse than death. ;)


You think using a push mower to mow .9 of an acre is "a little honest physical labor?" You'd have to stop for three ice-tea breaks before you got half done on a rider.

[Persephone]

You think using a push mower to mow .9 of an acre is "a little honest physical labor?" You'd have to stop for three ice-tea breaks before you got half done on a rider.


That's why I pay my nephew to do mine. I'm lazy. But I'd probably be better off if I did it myself. Then I wouldn't have to pay for exercise classes that I never go to. :)

[WCP]

That's why I pay my nephew to do mine.

Some have nephews, some have Mexicans. The end result is still the same. We didn't have to do it ourselves.

Pampered? No.

Lazy? Yes.

Pathetic? It's like saying "See that guy in that Mercedes? He's pathetic because he can afford to own a Mercedes."

Now, pathetic would be if he was in that Mercedes and he couldn't afford it.

[Persephone]

Some have nephews, some have Mexicans. The end result is still the same. We didn't have to do it ourselves.

Pampered? No.

Lazy? Yes.

Pathetic? It's like saying "See that guy in that Mercedes? He's pathetic because he can afford to own a Mercedes."

Now, pathetic would be if he was in that Mercedes and he couldn't afford it.


What's not pampered about sitting on your ass in the air conditioning while someone else cuts your grass?

Please, there are very few things in life I have to feel pampered over. Give me this one.

[Persephone]

Landscaping seems to be big business these days. Lazy is in. :)

[Persephone]

My husband works 2 full time jobs I work anywhere between 70 -80+ hrs a week. Neither one of us is lazy. We are strapped for time and prefer to spend some time together on Sunday instead of cutting the lawn.


And of course there are those who are just too damn busy to do it themselves.

[ponygurl]

About as pathetic as those who can't afford to hire one and are out in the hot sun sweating like a negro trying to writing a love letter doing this type of work. ;D

Well dear.. I don't mind sweating.. and I take pride in having the balls to do it myself. ;D :-*

BTW..I sweat like a Canadian. ;)

[ponygurl]

You think using a push mower to mow .9 of an acre is "a little honest physical labor?" You'd have to stop for three ice-tea breaks before you got half done on a rider.

I drank gallons.. fucking gallons of water.. I kid you not. ;D

[Persephone]

Well dear.. I don't mind sweating.. and I take pride in having the balls to do it myself. ;D :-*

BTW..I sweat like a Canadian. ;)


Can you get the older girls to take turns helping?

[ponygurl]

We have a nice man with 2 sons who cuts our lawn. They live in our subdivision. He had been laid off from a couple jobs and decided that he did not want to work for anyone else anymore so he started a business and employs his 2 college age sons. Everyone in the neighborhood decided he was a good neighbor and we wanted him not to lose his house so a bunch of us hired him. It works out for everyone.

Then why do you want a "Mexican"?

[WCP]

I used to have a little Mexican kid I hired for $5.00 a week to just pick up dog shit. At first blush, he thought he had hit pay dirt...until he realized that my Rottweiller took a shit as big as he was three times a day.

[ponygurl]

Can you get the older girls to take turns helping?

Yes.. when they are out of school. Right now they are in school during the week and I work the weekends.. so if they are at my house on the weekend.. they are not allowed to mow anyhow, because an adult must be home in order for youngsters to mow .
I rather enjoy it.. truthfully.. excellent workout..

[WCP]

I rather enjoy it.. truthfully.. excellent workout..


I'd rather jump naked in a pool full of double-edged razor blades.

[Persephone]

Yes.. when they are out of school. Right now they are in school during the week and I work the weekends.. so if they are at my house on the weekend.. they are not allowed to mow anyhow, because an adult must be home in order for youngsters to mow .
I rather enjoy it.. truthfully.. excellent workout..


There's really nothing better than getting a good workout and knowing you're accomplishing something with it.

Like I said, why pay someone to do your work for you then pay someone else to help you exercise? Most people do things bassackwards.

[WCP]

I rather enjoy it.. truthfully.. excellent workout..


I'd rather bleed to death by a thousand paper cuts to the lips and that part of the cuticle that hurts worse than a double amputation when you get a paper cut there.

[ponygurl]

I used to have a little Mexican kid I hired for $5.00 a week to just pick up dog shit. At first blush, he thought he had hit pay dirt...until he realized that my Rottweiller took a shit as big as he was three times a day.

Ignoring your bigoted mexican comment.. my brother once stated that his neighbours rottweiller shit was big enough to stall the mower. ;D

[WCP]

Ignoring your bigoted mexican comment.. my brother once stated that his neighbours rottweiller shit was big enough to stall the mower. ;D


What's so bigoted about giving a little Mexican kid $5.00 per week for a little work? Number 1: He'd better get used to it; and Number 2: Do you realize how many tortillas $5.00 will buy?

[ponygurl]

I dont PONY I was joking with Badnews!

Oh yes.. like saying you wanted a "nigger" so you didn't feel under privelged.. you get my drift. ;)

[Persephone]

Is anyone else struck with the irony of us wasting the morning away debating lawn care with a man who lives on a concrete lot? :P

[WCP]

Oh yes.. like saying you wanted a "nigger" so you didn't feel under privelged.. you get my drift. ;)


Well, at least you can get a Mexican to work...occasionally.

But here's a little secret in retaining Mexicans...

NEVER EVER let three of them work together. Under ANY circumstance. Two is okay, but the third one is a magical number or something. They sit around all day playing with their Johnsons doing absolutely nothing.

Fact.

[WCP]

It was ment as a joke. I should have put a ::) behind the comment.


They're not allowed to be all racial and shit up there.

Which is why in about 2 years, everyone in Canada will be bowing to fucking Mecca five times a day.

[WCP]

Is anyone else struck with the irony of us wasting the morning away debating lawn care with a man who lives on a concrete lot? :P


I'll have you to know that you shamed me yesterday about the leaf blower comment and I felt so bad about it, I immediatly went outside and blew all of my shit over onto the lots of my new neighbors. 8)

[Persephone]

Nobody likes it when bad tells racial jokes. They just put up with it because he's bad, and there's nothing you can do about him anyway.

I don't know anybody else who can get away with it.

[Persephone]

I'll have you to know that you shamed me yesterday about the leaf blower comment and I felt so bad about it, I immediatly went outside and blew all of my shit over onto the lots of my new neighbors. 8)


;D

[WCP]

Nobody likes it when bad tells racial jokes.


Who's joking?

[ponygurl]

It was ment as a joke. I should have put a ::) behind the comment.

Sorry.. different communication styles I guess.. I would never joke about it..I prefer to point out bigoted comments.. ;D

'Scuse my big mouth.

[Persephone]

Who's joking?


There's a difference in being honest and being outright offensive. You tend to teeter back and forth to the point that nobody knows what the hell you're being.

Most people who try to do that are just plain offensive.

[ponygurl]

What's so bigoted about giving a little Mexican kid $5.00 per week for a little work? Number 1: He'd better get used to it; and Number 2: Do you realize how many tortillas $5.00 will buy?

Nothing is wrong with giving the kid work.
The fact that you speak about mexicans in the way you do is what I find wrong.. but I really don't give a shit.. carry on. You will anyhow. ::) ;D


BTW.. I am the way i am because I prefer NOT to be bigoted.. not because I'm legislated to be this way.

[ponygurl]

They're not allowed to be all racial and shit up there.

Which is why in about 2 years, everyone in Canada will be bowing to fucking Mecca five times a day.

Correction..I lied in my last post.. I despise Arabs. :)

[WCP]

Nothing is wrong with giving the kid work.
The fact that you speak about mexicans in the way you do is what I find wrong.. but I really don't give a shit.. carry on. You will anyhow. ::) ;D


BTW.. I am the way i am because I prefer NOT to be bigoted.. not because I'm legislated to be this way.


How many black, mexican, chink, hebe, dago, mick <light year> friends do you have?

I'll bet everyone you know would stick out like a diamond at another racial gathering.

Don't give me that shit. You're a bigot. You just prefer to pretend that you are not.

Which brings us back to "pathetic." ;D

[wellkeptsecrets]

I was accused of being 'racist' the other day by someone I talk to in Australia. Apparently using the term 'alabaster cheeks' in one of my poems constitutes me being ignorant and racist because people of color could not relate to nor use my poem to send to other people of color. :-\

[WCP]

I was accused of being 'racist' the other day by someone I talk to in Australia. Apparently using the term 'alabaster cheeks' in one of my poems constitutes me being ignorant and racist because people of color could not relate to nor use my poem to send to other people of color. :-\


I have come to realize that you are only a "racist" if the person you're speaking to or about makes you feel embarrassed to call them what they are.

That's what "racism" is all about. Hiding in the dark thinking you're "better" than they are.

I call a Spade a Spade...to his face.

[ponygurl]

How many black, mexican, chink, hebe, dago, mick <light year> friends do you have?

I'll bet everyone you know would stick out like a diamond at another racial gathering.

Don't give me that shit. You're a bigot. You just prefer to pretend that you are not.

Which brings us back to "pathetic." ;D

I despise Arabs because they think they are better/smarter/more moral/cleaner/slyer than everyone else.

[Persephone]

I was accused of being 'racist' the other day by someone I talk to in Australia. Apparently using the term 'alabaster cheeks' in one of my poems constitutes me being ignorant and racist because people of color could not relate to nor use my poem to send to other people of color. :-\


That's absurd.

[WCP]

I despise Arabs because they think they are better/smarter/more moral/cleaner/slyer than everyone else.


See? That's reverse racism.

[Persephone]

I never think about what race my students are...unless they do something to piss me off. But they tend to piss me off at equal rates, so I really wouldn't pick any one race over another as being better students.

What I am prejudiced against is lazy and dishonest. That comes in all shades.

[ponygurl]

Can you get the older girls to take turns helping?

I told moli to trim around the evergreens that line my lot.. she asked what she "gets for that". After I wiped my tears and could speak.. I said "supper". ;D

[wellkeptsecrets]

I have come to realize that you are only a "racist" if the person you're speaking to or about makes you feel embarrassed to call them what they are.

That's what "racism" is all about. Hiding in the dark thinking you're "better" than they are.

I call a Spade a Spade...to his face.


Well this Ozzie told me I needed to change my poem to make it more socially acceptable. I said, 'NO, I'm not changing it'. We are no longer speaking. His loss, not mine.

[Persephone]

I told moli to trim around the evergreens that line my lot.. she asked what she "gets for that". After I wiped my tears and could speak.. I said "supper". ;D


;D

[ponygurl]

See? That's reverse racism.

Did you require a cup of coffee to make up that term?

[ponygurl]

We are no longer speaking.

shit.. you make that a habit eh? ;D ;D ;D

[WCP]

Did you require a cup of coffee to make up that term?


Nope. Just the "outrage" I hear over the "N" word ::) whilst listening to Def Comedy Jam and hearing "White Mother Fucker" about half a million times on national t.v.

Try using "niggardly" in a sentence around a negroid and see what you get.

[ponygurl]

Nope. Just the "outrage" I hear over the "N" word ::) whilst listening to Def Comedy Jam and hearing "White Mother Fucker" about half a million times on national t.v.

Try using "niggardly" in a sentence around a negroid and see what you get.

In case I offended Julianna.. I tell my mother she's a bigot when she uses the word "nigger". I also tell her to come into the 20th century.

[Persephone]

Actually...

In the younger generation, there's no difference in teaching white kids and teaching black kids or Mexican kids.

In the older generation, there is a difference. It's much harder for me to teach an older black woman than to teach an older white woman...in general.

That's why I forgive bad for being racist. He's old. He doesn't know things have changed. ;D

[ponygurl]

Actually...

In the younger generation, there's no difference in teaching white kids and teaching black kids or Mexican kids.

In the older generation, there is a difference. It's much harder for me to teach an older black woman than to teach an older white woman...in general.

That's why I forgive bad for being racist. He's old. He doesn't know things have changed. ;D

Oh well..I still won't be quiet about it. :)

[Persephone]

Oh well..I still won't be quiet about it. :)


Good for you. :)

[WCP]

Black Mayor Gladly Accepts Resignation of White Staff Member For Using The Word "Niggardly." (http://www.adversity.net/special/niggardly.htm)

[WCP]

That's why I forgive bad for being racist. He's old. He doesn't know things have changed. ;D


And when some dumb black chick comes into your office and accuses you of being all Whitey because of that F you gave her (that she deserved), you do what at the order of the Dean?

Yeah, things have changed.

We cave in to pressure.

[Persephone]

And when some dumb black chick comes into your office and accuses you of being all Whitey because of that F you gave her (that she deserved), you do what at the order of the Dean?

Yeah, things have changed.

We cave in to pressure.


You think the dumb white chicks don't do the same thing?

[ponygurl]

The way to change things is not to remain stagnant, Bn.. but to move forward.. '
There will always be assholes.. that Aide resigned because the mayor was an asshole..
But we I will not accept the "norm" as the way to be if I believe it's wrong.

[ponygurl]

Anyhow.. did you water your tomatoes? ;D

[WCP]

You think the dumb white chicks don't do the same thing?


Dumb white chicks accuse you of being racial?

My. I guess times REALLY have changed.

[WCP]

Anyhow.. did you water your tomatoes? ;D


Not yet. I gave it a drink last night before I went to bed. I will be monitoring it closely and hope some black person doesn't walk by (as if they'd allow any in here) and confuse it with a watermelon plant and report me to the PC Police. :o

[Persephone]

Dumb white chicks accuse you of being racial?

My. I guess times REALLY have changed.


They all have their excuses. It may not be racism, but it's there.

I had one who had an F this semester because she did not turn in three of her assignments. When she got her grade, she cried and moaned and bitched and acted totally floored that this had happened to her. She said, "I thought you had a heart."

::)

[wellkeptsecrets]

shit.. you make that a habit eh? ;D ;D ;D


Seems so. Oh well. 8)

[ponygurl]

Not yet. I gave it a drink last night before I went to bed. I will be monitoring it closely and hope some black person doesn't walk by (as if they'd allow any in here) and confuse it with a watermelon plant and report me to the PC Police. :o

You are such an asshole. ::)

[WCP]

They all have their excuses. It may not be racism, but it's there.

I had one who had an F this semester because she did not turn in three of her assignments. When she got her grade, she cried and moaned and bitched and acted totally floored that this had happened to her. She said, "I thought you had a heart."

::)


You're side-stepping the issue.

Has a "person of color" accused you of being a racist (or anyone you know) for giving them the grade that they earned?

Ignore every other excuse you've ever heard.

[ponygurl]

Seems so. Oh well. 8)

;D

[WCP]

You are such an asshole. ::)


Well, at least that doesn't surprise you anymore. 8)

[ponygurl]

You are such an asshole. ::)

With all due respect.. of course.. ;D



<I made this freakin' awesome bean salad> *slurp*

[Persephone]

You're side-stepping the issue.

Has a "person of color" accused you of being a racist (or anyone you know) for giving them the grade that they earned?

Ignore every other excuse you've ever heard.


Not outright, no.

I've gotten the "you don't like me" stuff from black and white students. I gotten the "I gave you my paper, and you lost it" from black and white students.

The closest to an accusation of racism I've ever gotten is "you're trying to keep me down." I hear so many excuses that one didn't really mean much, though.

No one has ever gone to a dean and accused me of being racist in grading.

[ponygurl]

My dearly departed daddy whomIadoreandisasclosetoagodasamangets was a bigot.. mostly against Japanese.. *sigh*. He had to face it head on and control his cake hole when my sister got a Japanese exchange student. ;D

[wellkeptsecrets]

Upon further reflection does two people not speaking to me constitute a 'habit'? Or perhaps there are others I am not yet aware of that aren't speaking to me. ??? ;D

[ponygurl]

Upon further reflection does two people not speaking to me constitute a 'habit'? Or perhaps there are others I am not yet aware of that aren't speaking to me. ??? ;D

;D
don't reflect.. ;D

[wellkeptsecrets]

Well, at least that doesn't surprise you anymore. 8)


Not much about you surprises me anymore. ;D
But.... that doesn't mean you couldn't still surprise me on occassion. 8)

[WCP]

PORT HARDY, British Columbia Here is the real story.
Although I was not personally on hand to witness any of this, I have spent enough time in school to know what really went on in the classroom on this fateful afternoon in Port Hardy.

The teacher is trying to teach a room full of students. Enter the hyper-brat. Hyper-brat's parents didn’t have the patience to raise there little wild child any more than getting him not to eat with his feet. He is a living terror.

So Teacher gets frustrated when the little shit won’t sit still, won’t shut the fuck up, thinks everything is hilarious, disrupts class by constantly falling out of his chair, so you know what she did? She stood up, grabbed some duct tape and string from the arts and crafts corner, held the kids head down on the desk and taped that little motherfuckers flush on the desk, and then tied him to his chair with string.

That is what happens when you leave it up to society to raise your child. They take a crash course.

BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! (http://www.eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/volume01/diatribes035/diatribes705-723/diatribes715.htm)

[wellkeptsecrets]

;D
don't reflect.. ;D


Oh, and why pray tell? ;D

[ponygurl]

PORT HARDY, British Columbia Here is the real story.
Although I was not personally on hand to witness any of this, I have spent enough time in school to know what really went on in the classroom on this fateful afternoon in Port Hardy.

The teacher is trying to teach a room full of students. Enter the hyper-brat. Hyper-brat's parents didn’t have the patience to raise there little wild child any more than getting him not to eat with his feet. He is a living terror.

So Teacher gets frustrated when the little shit won’t sit still, won’t shut the fuck up, thinks everything is hilarious, disrupts class by constantly falling out of his chair, so you know what she did? She stood up, grabbed some duct tape and string from the arts and crafts corner, held the kids head down on the desk and taped that little motherfuckers flush on the desk, and then tied him to his chair with string.

That is what happens when you leave it up to society to raise your child. They take a crash course.

BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! (http://www.eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/volume01/diatribes035/diatribes705-723/diatribes715.htm)

It was Canada.. what do you expect.

[ponygurl]

Oh, and why pray tell? ;D

Speaking of said men.. who pissed tileman off.. he hasn't posted in two days.. :o

[Persephone]

PORT HARDY, British Columbia Here is the real story.
Although I was not personally on hand to witness any of this, I have spent enough time in school to know what really went on in the classroom on this fateful afternoon in Port Hardy.

The teacher is trying to teach a room full of students. Enter the hyper-brat. Hyper-brat's parents didn’t have the patience to raise there little wild child any more than getting him not to eat with his feet. He is a living terror.

So Teacher gets frustrated when the little shit won’t sit still, won’t shut the fuck up, thinks everything is hilarious, disrupts class by constantly falling out of his chair, so you know what she did? She stood up, grabbed some duct tape and string from the arts and crafts corner, held the kids head down on the desk and taped that little motherfuckers flush on the desk, and then tied him to his chair with string.

That is what happens when you leave it up to society to raise your child. They take a crash course.

BWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! (http://www.eightballmagazine.com/diatribes/volume01/diatribes035/diatribes705-723/diatribes715.htm)



I can relate. And people wonder why so many teachers quit before they get through the first year.

[ponygurl]

For some of our posters. ;D

I Just Can't Get Pass the Bad Grammar and Vulgarity
"Riot Fuel" by Eightheadz, creator of 8BM.com
"My own view is that the more brutally honest you are trying to be, the more you need to state your brutally honest points with flawless language. That being the case, I am compelled to elucidate the following. Put quite simply, the language skills exhibited in your publication suck."

"If you want to defend unpopular ideas like honesty, I recommend you not provide easy targets like questionable literacy."

"Yes. The untrained mind and unskilled speaker always says "I meant to do that." Thus is the fate of all radical thought religated to obscurity by the illiteratti. It would be foolish to think it otherwise in your case. Congratulations, you are truly insignificant, by your own design."

The point of the written word is to communicate ideas from one person to another. Since people come from various different backgrounds it is obvious that no one style of communication, even within the same language will be receptive to everyone.
Eightball articles are written to connect with the reader in the same vernacular that we would use if we were in the same room with you having a conversation.
Personally, I don't see the point in writing one way and speaking another way.
Now does that mean that all grammatical rules are bunk?
No, not at all.
The way I see it, when your grammar is so fucked up that people don't even understand what you are saying even when they read it aloud, then it has gone too far. My solution; you better go back and add some commas.
I think it is interesting that people don't mind "grammatically incorrect" writing if it is to be sung in a song lyric or read in lines spoken by an actor in a play, but it bothers them so much to read it in an article.
Although I understand that this style of writing isn't appropriate for all audiences, it is entirely appropriate for this audience.
And before you start, let me say this. This isn't a crusade that I am on. I am not trying to change the world. I am just commenting on news.
If certain words I use bother you that much there are other places you can go to read about impending alien invasions and what not. Go somewhere else.
It just doesn't make any sense to e-mail me about it because over time I have realized that it doesn't even make for an interesting conversation to even discuss it with you. If I really cared what you thought I would've changed the vernacular based conversationalist style of writing on this site to make it more palatable for your tastes back in 1998 when I started this site.
I don't get hung up on the usage of particular words. A word to me is just another color that I can use on my palette to express myself. I also don't subscribe to the argument that there is a connection between morals, intellect or anything else with the words that you use or don't use.
The first reason being is because that argument is illogical. It's illgoial because there is no relationship there. The second and probably the most important reason I don't subscribe to the argument that language denotes level of intelligence like a yellow street light denotes caution is because I have no interest in trying to deceive myself into believing all it takes to be smart is to not say the word "fuck".
However, I think it is fairly obvious why someone would have an interest in wanting to believe there is a correlation between intelligence and using certain words. It is a lot easier to be smart if all you have to do is not say "fuck" than it would be to actually pick up a book or engage in the dialectic with someone other than their fellow Jesus freaks in a compound somewhere surrounded by walls of canned foods and bottled water waiting on the return of Christ.
Words come and go within the canon of what is acceptable word usage all the time.
Just look at the word "ain't". The word "ain't" appeared in 1778 during the same era that saw "won't" and "don't" appear. However "don't" and "won't" eventually became accepted at all levels of speech and writing without much fanfare. Now poor old "ain't" wasn't so lucky. Although "ain't" was originally used by the upper classes, who evidently are the ones who decide for everyone what is appropriate speech and what isn't, it was later abandoned and labeled a vulgarism because it appeared to have no set sequence of words that it was obviously contracted from and secondly because it was heavily used among the poor or lower classes. Which must mean it is bad, right?
Now I don't know about you but doesn't the realization of why certain words are considered vulgar and others not really just make the whole grammarian purist movement just seem silly?
It is fucking word people. Grow up.
If you told me that it was my turn to pick up the check and I told you "I ain't got no money" and you went ahead and ordered food anyway, we would both be in the kitchen doing dishes.
Now this should be in no way taken as an excuse for misspelled words, words used in the wrong context or using the wrong word in any instance. This is only a forewarning that the style of writing here at 8BM.com is intentional.
If you can't deal with that, then 8BM.com just isn't for you.
No biggie.
Go live.

http://www.eightballmagazine.com/subculture/grammar.htm


;D

[Persephone]

For some of our posters. ;D

I Just Can't Get Pass the Bad Grammar and Vulgarity
"Riot Fuel" by Eightheadz, creator of 8BM.com
"My own view is that the more brutally honest you are trying to be, the more you need to state your brutally honest points with flawless language. That being the case, I am compelled to elucidate the following. Put quite simply, the language skills exhibited in your publication suck."

"If you want to defend unpopular ideas like honesty, I recommend you not provide easy targets like questionable literacy."

"Yes. The untrained mind and unskilled speaker always says "I meant to do that." Thus is the fate of all radical thought religated to obscurity by the illiteratti. It would be foolish to think it otherwise in your case. Congratulations, you are truly insignificant, by your own design."

The point of the written word is to communicate ideas from one person to another. Since people come from various different backgrounds it is obvious that no one style of communication, even within the same language will be receptive to everyone.
Eightball articles are written to connect with the reader in the same vernacular that we would use if we were in the same room with you having a conversation.
Personally, I don't see the point in writing one way and speaking another way.
Now does that mean that all grammatical rules are bunk?
No, not at all.
The way I see it, when your grammar is so fucked up that people don't even understand what you are saying even when they read it aloud, then it has gone too far. My solution; you better go back and add some commas.
I think it is interesting that people don't mind "grammatically incorrect" writing if it is to be sung in a song lyric or read in lines spoken by an actor in a play, but it bothers them so much to read it in an article.
Although I understand that this style of writing isn't appropriate for all audiences, it is entirely appropriate for this audience.
And before you start, let me say this. This isn't a crusade that I am on. I am not trying to change the world. I am just commenting on news.
If certain words I use bother you that much there are other places you can go to read about impending alien invasions and what not. Go somewhere else.
It just doesn't make any sense to e-mail me about it because over time I have realized that it doesn't even make for an interesting conversation to even discuss it with you. If I really cared what you thought I would've changed the vernacular based conversationalist style of writing on this site to make it more palatable for your tastes back in 1998 when I started this site.
I don't get hung up on the usage of particular words. A word to me is just another color that I can use on my palette to express myself. I also don't subscribe to the argument that there is a connection between morals, intellect or anything else with the words that you use or don't use.
The first reason being is because that argument is illogical. It's illgoial because there is no relationship there. The second and probably the most important reason I don't subscribe to the argument that language denotes level of intelligence like a yellow street light denotes caution is because I have no interest in trying to deceive myself into believing all it takes to be smart is to not say the word "fuck".
However, I think it is fairly obvious why someone would have an interest in wanting to believe there is a correlation between intelligence and using certain words. It is a lot easier to be smart if all you have to do is not say "fuck" than it would be to actually pick up a book or engage in the dialectic with someone other than their fellow Jesus freaks in a compound somewhere surrounded by walls of canned foods and bottled water waiting on the return of Christ.
Words come and go within the canon of what is acceptable word usage all the time.
Just look at the word "ain't". The word "ain't" appeared in 1778 during the same era that saw "won't" and "don't" appear. However "don't" and "won't" eventually became accepted at all levels of speech and writing without much fanfare. Now poor old "ain't" wasn't so lucky. Although "ain't" was originally used by the upper classes, who evidently are the ones who decide for everyone what is appropriate speech and what isn't, it was later abandoned and labeled a vulgarism because it appeared to have no set sequence of words that it was obviously contracted from and secondly because it was heavily used among the poor or lower classes. Which must mean it is bad, right?
Now I don't know about you but doesn't the realization of why certain words are considered vulgar and others not really just make the whole grammarian purist movement just seem silly?
It is fucking word people. Grow up.
If you told me that it was my turn to pick up the check and I told you "I ain't got no money" and you went ahead and ordered food anyway, we would both be in the kitchen doing dishes.
Now this should be in no way taken as an excuse for misspelled words, words used in the wrong context or using the wrong word in any instance. This is only a forewarning that the style of writing here at 8BM.com is intentional.
If you can't deal with that, then 8BM.com just isn't for you.
No biggie.
Go live.

http://www.eightballmagazine.com/subculture/grammar.htm


;D


;D

[wellkeptsecrets]

Speaking of said men.. who pissed tileman off.. he hasn't posted in two days.. :o


It wasn't me.... this time. ;D ;D

[ponygurl]

It wasn't me.... this time. ;D ;D

Could have been me.. has been before. ;D ;D ;D

[WCP]

I think it was me. I took a cheap shot at his God the other day and he's been sitting in a corner curled up in the fetal position ever since.

[ponygurl]

I think it was me. I took a cheap shot at his God the other day and he's been sitting in a corner curled up in the fetal position ever since.

He's fine.. I just talked to him. I just worry when old men have to work hard. ;D

[wellkeptsecrets]

He's fine.. I just talked to him. I just worry when old men have to work hard. ;D


He's not that old. Lord I feel like I have one foot in the grave now. ;D

[ponygurl]

He's not that old. Lord I feel like I have one foot in the grave now. ;D

;D Oops. :-[

[wellkeptsecrets]

;D Oops. :-[


Age is a number. I choose not to let the number dictate my age. ;D

[WCP]

http://www.dribbleglass.com/images/billboards/naacp.jpg

[ponygurl]

I am too Scottish niggardly to hire a Mexican to do my yard work.

[wellkeptsecrets]

I am too Scottish niggardly to hire a Mexican to do my yard work.


I just knew someone would post a sentence. 8)

[ponygurl]

I just knew someone would post a sentence. 8)

I figured I'd portray my pathetic bigotry. ;D

[wellkeptsecrets]

I figured I'd portray my pathetic bigotry. ;D


Good use of todays words, 'pathetic' and 'bigotry'. ;D

[ponygurl]

Good use of todays words, 'pathetic' and 'bigotry'. ;D

Where's Grover? I have this Sesame Street shit down pat. 8) ;D

[wellkeptsecrets]

Hey, Your Badness how's the garden doing? Anything dead yet? 8)

[WCP]

Hey, Your Badness how's the garden doing? Anything dead yet? 8)


Doing fine. Just gave it a sip 'o water. But I think I've been bitten by The Bug (http://www.gardeners.com/sell.asp?ProdGroupID=11733&DeptPGID=18247&lstCateg ory=18306&lstSort=&RecGroupNum=1)

[wellkeptsecrets]

Doing fine. Just gave it a sip 'o water. But I think I've been bitten by The Bug (http://www.gardeners.com/sell.asp?ProdGroupID=11733&DeptPGID=18247&lstCateg ory=18306&lstSort=&RecGroupNum=1)


So what are you going to order? ;)

[ponygurl]

Those watering wands are awesome..

[Persephone]

My tomato plants are doing great after all the rain we've had. I've got about ten tomatoes on them.

I'm just waiting for the energy to strike to dig up some more ground where I can plant more stuff. I want to plant peppers and squash and eggplant. I'm kind of late to get started on that, but not too late.

I need to take advantage of the soggy ground and dig while the digging is easy.

[ponygurl]

http://www.gardeners.com/department.asp?DeptPGID=18247&lstCategory=18310

Plant terrace set.. nice...

[ponygurl]

My tomato plants are doing great after all the rain we've had. I've got about ten tomatoes on them.

I'm just waiting for the energy to strike to dig up some more ground where I can plant more stuff. I want to plant peppers and squash and eggplant. I'm kind of late to get started on that, but not too late.

I need to take advantage of the soggy ground and dig while the digging is easy.

Don't dig too much when it's soggy if you have clay.. or you will end up with concrete. ;D

[Persephone]

Don't dig too much when it's soggy if you have clay.. or you will end up with concrete. ;D


Somehow I doubt I'm in much danger of doing anything that much like work anyway. :)

[wendy]

I was accused of being 'racist' the other day by someone I talk to in Australia. Apparently using the term 'alabaster cheeks' in one of my poems constitutes me being ignorant and racist because people of color could not relate to nor use my poem to send to other people of color. :-\


Did you tell them they were racist for noticing it...and pointing it out?

It's always best to immediately turn that shit around. ;)

[wellkeptsecrets]

Did you tell them they were racist for noticing it...and pointing it out?

It's always best to immediately turn that shit around. ;)


The person wanted me to rewrite the poem and change that line. I said, "NO'.... they flipped out and called me an 'Ignorant Red Assed Bitch'. I believe it has to do with the fact that I'm a redhead. I replied with an equally nice rant of my own. I suspect I won't be hearing from them again. ;D