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Bulla said Whittaker wife's name is Jewell, he has a daughter named Ginger, a 15-year-old granddaughter and he plans to pay his tithe to the Church of God with the winnings.
"I just want to thank God for letting me pick the right numbers or letting the machine pick the right numbers," Whittaker said.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20021226_1157.html
Did God really help him win by gambling? Is it right for a church to accept tithe's from gambling?
truelies
12-26-2002, 02:35 PM
Since God is the Owner of ALL, I expect that He won't mind having some of what is His that had been appropiated by the Devil returned. Though it would have been better if the person in question had simply turned all of the money over to worthy causes.
Sudden unearned wealth almost always leaves a person worse off 10 years down the road. Can you just imagine the profession weasels that are schemeing this very minute to part this fellow from his new wealth.
Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and render unto God that which is God's...
By that standard - no church should have to take a collection of any sort. God should just provide.
But, since we know he doesnt' - I say let the guy give the money if he pleases. That's a lot of dough for a church - I hope they don't blow it all on a new baptismal made out of marble or something. ;D
truelies
12-26-2002, 02:59 PM
Not meaning to be difficult here- BUT you are taking a quote and using it where it does not apply. The OT required Tithes to support the Levite Priesthood. The NT assumes (in Acts for example) that the Faithful will contribute to the Worldly costs of the Church according to their ability and the prompting of the Spirit. There is a fairly strong indication that those who Preach/Pastor should have a day job so as to not burden the Faithful.
In general I am opposed to Churches accumulating any large amounts of Property not tied directly to the Church Mission.
Not meaning to be difficult here- BUT you are taking a quote and using it where it does not apply. The OT required Tithes to support the Levite Priesthood. The NT assumes (in Acts for example) that the Faithful will contribute to the Worldly costs of the Church according to their ability and the prompting of the Spirit. There is a fairly strong indication that those who Preach/Pastor should have a day job so as to not burden the Faithful.
In general I am opposed to Churches accumulating any large amounts of Property not tied directly to the Church Mission.
Not to be difficult?? I think you ARE being difficult. ;D
Actually, I don't care who does or doesn't give money. I just have a problem with some of the evangelists on TV that make a person feel like they are buying their way into heaven by sending in money.
tileman
12-26-2002, 03:05 PM
I've promised half of mine if I ever win........
I've promised half of mine if I ever win........
Promised who?
God?
Are you kinda trying to get him to 'fix' the Quik-Pik machine? ;D
And will you give it 'to' him by giving it to a church? Or by helping others who badly need help?
tileman
12-26-2002, 03:16 PM
I've promised half of mine if I ever win........
Promised who?
God?
Are you kinda trying to get him to 'fix' the Quik-Pik machine? ;D
And will you give it 'to' him by giving it to a church? Or by helping others who badly need help?
Whoever does the actual listening.............but I'd give it to a combination of the Union Rescue Mission, Salvation Army, and people I know of that need some help.
truelies
12-26-2002, 03:20 PM
[quote author=CherryBomb
Not to be difficult?? I think you ARE being difficult. ;D
Actually, I don't care who does or doesn't give money. I just have a problem with some of the evangelists on TV that make a person feel like they are buying their way into heaven by sending in money.
[/quote]
Remember back in the mid 1980's when Oral Roberts went up in that Tower at his HQ and said that God was going to Off him if folks did not fork over? I was in a work group at that time where EVERYONE else had ideas about Christianity that fell somewhere between yours and Lance's. These folks were utterly without Mercy. As the resident Christian it was like I was bilking those lonely old ladies out of their SS checks. The pogrom went on for about a month. At times I suffered more than..............oops better not go there.
My fav though is a guy right here in Wichita, the one who owned all those gospel radio stations for a while. Letting the Feds sting him with a drug deal setup was really poor form. I still shudder at his statement (which I think the poor sap REALLY believes) that God OKed the deal because it was for the Church. On the other hand maybe GOD DID TELL HIM TO DO WHAT HE DID TO GET HIM OUT OF THE MINISTRY.
[quote author=CherryBomb
Not to be difficult?? I think you ARE being difficult. ;D
Actually, I don't care who does or doesn't give money. I just have a problem with some of the evangelists on TV that make a person feel like they are buying their way into heaven by sending in money.
Remember back in the mid 1980's when Oral Roberts went up in that Tower at his HQ and said that God was going to Off him if folks did not fork over? I was in a work group at that time where EVERYONE else had ideas about Christianity that fell somewhere between yours and Lance's. These folks were utterly without Mercy. As the resident Christian it was like I was bilking those lonely old ladies out of their SS checks. The pogrom went on for about a month. At times I suffered more than..............oops better not go there.
My fav though is a guy right here in Wichita, the one who owned all those gospel radio stations for a while. Letting the Feds sting him with a drug deal setup was really poor form. I still shudder at his statement (which I think the poor sap REALLY believes) that God OKed the deal because it was for the Church. On the other hand maybe GOD DID TELL HIM TO DO WHAT HE DID TO GET HIM OUT OF THE MINISTRY.
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Yeah, it is too bad that folks like you have to suffer ridicule becasue of the actions of a few very unscrupulous people.
But, I am guilty of doing it too. It isn't right - but it comes from the feeling that we are left with when some Christians act like we are less than dog poop for not agreeing with them and then - when one of them steps out of line - it makes an easy target.
Guys like you get caught in the cross-fire. Sorry.
I've promised half of mine if I ever win........
If some Christian churches preach *aganist* gambling and if I'm not mistaken the Church of God is one of those of which our lucky winner is a member, isn't it hypocritical of a church which preaches about the 'evils' of gambling to accept tithes from gambling?
tileman
12-26-2002, 03:31 PM
I've promised half of mine if I ever win........
If some Christian churches preach *aganist* gambling and if I'm not mistaken the Church of God is one of those of which our lucky winner is a member, isn't it hypocritical of a church which preaches about the 'evils' of gambling to accept tithes from gambling?
I won't giv'em any
I've promised half of mine if I ever win........
If some Christian churches preach *aganist* gambling and if I'm not mistaken the Church of God is one of those of which our lucky winner is a member, isn't it hypocritical of a church which preaches about the 'evils' of gambling to accept tithes from gambling?
I won't giv'em any
If God helps one man win 350 million, why doesn't God help 200 million people one million?
If God helped me win 350 million, I would presume he meant for ME to have won 350 million and not all the low lifes that everyone will have become.
tileman
12-26-2002, 03:36 PM
cuz your math blows
I've promised half of mine if I ever win........
If some Christian churches preach *aganist* gambling and if I'm not mistaken the Church of God is one of those of which our lucky winner is a member, isn't it hypocritical of a church which preaches about the 'evils' of gambling to accept tithes from gambling?
I won't giv'em any
If God helps one man win 350 million, why doesn't God help 200 million people one million?
Yeah!!! That would be one hell of a conversion tool. ;)
wendy
12-26-2002, 03:38 PM
Don't introduce logic, Lonestar.....
If this guy REALLLY thinks God helped him pick the winning numbers, he needs to give it ALL to the Church. Isn't this guy supposed to trust God to provide?
truelies
12-26-2002, 03:40 PM
They are right to say that gambling is a Vice for a Christian. But now they have one of the Faithful who has stumbled and that must be dealt with. Kinda like when some sweet young thing lets her hormones get the best of her and ends up in a family way. At that point you can rant and rave that she has broken the law (which she has) and crowd her into doing something even worse or you can bite your tongue and try to achieve the best from a bad situation. Which are you going to do?
This case has some similarities. IMHO the mans Church should help him put ALL of the ill gotten gain to a positive use. There are folks with real unmeant NEEDS (not wants) just in WV that could soak up the ENTIRE 100 million plus.
truelies
12-26-2002, 03:46 PM
[quote author=wendya
Don't introduce logic, Lonestar.....
If this guy REALLLY thinks God helped him pick the winning numbers, he needs to give it ALL to the Church. Isn't this guy supposed to trust God to provide?
[/quote]
This is spooky. I think wendya & I have committed a spontaenous act of general agreement. What will be next? cats doing it with dogs? Frogs raining from the Sky? Unexplained darkness covering the Earth? The End is near folks. Better unload your K-Mart stock & run up your charge cards.
wendy
12-26-2002, 03:54 PM
This is spooky. I think wendya & I have committed a spontaenous act of general agreement. What will be next? cats doing it with dogs? Frogs raining from the Sky? Unexplained darkness covering the Earth? The End is near folks. Better unload your K-Mart stock & run up your charge cards.
:D
That 100 million would educate a LOT of WV kids who could come home and improve the standard of living in their home state. Isn't that better than buying a Helicopter?
tileman
12-26-2002, 03:55 PM
[quote author=wendya
Don't introduce logic, Lonestar.....
If this guy REALLLY thinks God helped him pick the winning numbers, he needs to give it ALL to the Church. Isn't this guy supposed to trust God to provide?
This is spooky. I think wendya & I have committed a spontaenous act of general agreement. What will be next? cats doing it with dogs? Frogs raining from the Sky? Unexplained darkness covering the Earth? The End is near folks. Better unload your K-Mart stock & run up your charge cards.
[/quote]
Oh so I'm screwed because I'm only giving up half?.. ;D
[quote author=wendya
Don't introduce logic, Lonestar.....
If this guy REALLLY thinks God helped him pick the winning numbers, he needs to give it ALL to the Church. Isn't this guy supposed to trust God to provide?
This is spooky. I think wendya & I have committed a spontaenous act of general agreement. What will be next? cats doing it with dogs? Frogs raining from the Sky? Unexplained darkness covering the Earth? The End is near folks. Better unload your K-Mart stock & run up your charge cards.
Oh so I'm screwed because I'm only giving up half?.. ;D
[/quote]
Says a lot bud .......... ;D
Bulla said Whittaker wife's name is Jewell, he has a daughter named Ginger, a 15-year-old granddaughter and he plans to pay his tithe to the Church of God with the winnings.
"I just want to thank God for letting me pick the right numbers or letting the machine pick the right numbers," Whittaker said.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20021226_1157.html
Did God really help him win by gambling? Is it right for a church to accept tithe's from gambling?
They might as well accept a tithe from a bank robber.
sodaknomad
12-26-2002, 04:35 PM
This is spooky. I think wendya & I have committed a spontaenous act of general agreement. What will be next? cats doing it with dogs? Frogs raining from the Sky? Unexplained darkness covering the Earth? The End is near folks. Better unload your K-Mart stock & run up your charge cards.
:D
That 100 million would educate a LOT of WV kids who could come home and improve the standard of living in their home state. Isn't that better than buying a Helicopter?
Wendy, don't you know educated West Virginians stay the hell out?
They might as well accept a tithe from a bank robber.
I would...but, hey. I'm shameless. Wait. So are churches. ;D
educated West Virginians
OXYMORON ALERT!!!
Lance
12-26-2002, 05:05 PM
Boy, what a quandry!
From the money standpoint, it is his. He can do with it what he desires. But it does seem a tad hypocritical of the church to accept it, particularly as the CoG if I remember correctly is one of those near cultish sects of christianity.
Were it myself who won that pile of loot, I would probably give some to charity. I do not know how much and exactly where. But I probably would.
sawbuck
12-26-2002, 05:44 PM
1. Likely he'll give it to numerous Christian organizations.
2. The apostles cast all kinds of lots -- basically rolling the dice after prayer.
The apostles cast all kinds of lots -- basically rolling the dice after prayer.
For the purpose of stealing each other's money?
sawbuck
12-26-2002, 06:04 PM
I feel bad for Slipped Mickey. I know he was countin on this win. :'(
1. Likely he'll give it to numerous Christian organizations.
2. The apostles cast all kinds of lots -- basically rolling the dice after prayer.
You best better explain #2 there sawbuck. Prayer and dice don't go together.
tileman
12-26-2002, 06:27 PM
The apostles cast all kinds of lots -- basically rolling the dice after prayer.
For the purpose of stealing each other's money?
How is it stealing if they're all playing the game?
tileman
12-26-2002, 06:30 PM
OK after the bank robber crack, I'm assuming you're being sarcastic.
Were it myself who won that pile of loot, I would probably give some to charity. I do not know how much and exactly where. But I probably would.
If it was me that won that "party 'til you puke," I'd make up my own religion. Hell, I'd have more than most churches. I would call it "The Temple of the Flesh." MIght as well work on the tax deductible portion of the gig, right?
Late Edit: A-fucking-men.
[quote author=arod For the purpose of stealing each other's money?
How is it stealing if they're all playing the game?
[/quote]
The prospective lottery winner is dependent on thousands of other fools who want something for nothing just like he does. That money doesn't come from nowhere, it comes from other people; therefore, it is even less than a zero sum game, because the only one who always wins is the house.
Technically it may not be theft, but it stinks like hell as far as I'm concerned. It's all about proletarian greed.
tileman
12-26-2002, 06:49 PM
[quote author=arod For the purpose of stealing each other's money?
How is it stealing if they're all playing the game?
The prospective lottery winner is dependent on thousands of other fools who want something for nothing just like he does. That money doesn't come from nowhere, it comes from other people; therefore, it is even less than a zero sum game, because the only one who always wins is the house.
Technically it may not be theft, but it stinks like hell as far as I'm concerned. It's all about proletarian greed.
[/quote]
There is no house in the case of the apostles tossing lots or a friendly card game, which was the example you responded to.
do you think a friendly card game where real money is used should be illegal?
There is no house in the case of the apostles tossing lots or a friendly card game, which was the example you responded to.
do you think a friendly card game where real money is used should be illegal?
I don't see why. However, I find it hard to conceive of disciples of Christ playing poker, each hoping to deprive the others of their hard-earned money. How on earth is THAT a win-win deal?
The apostles cast all kinds of lots -- basically rolling the dice after prayer.
For the purpose of stealing each other's money?
How is it stealing if they're all playing the game?
'playing the game' Is that how you see the lotto, a game? Did that man 'earn' $350 million? He doesn't owe God a dime because 'God' didn't give him that money, luck gave him that money and he didn't earn a dime of it. You see nothing wrong with this?
tileman
12-26-2002, 07:01 PM
There is no house in the case of the apostles tossing lots or a friendly card game, which was the example you responded to.
do you think a friendly card game where real money is used should be illegal?
I don't see why. However, I find it hard to conceive of disciples of Christ playing poker, each hoping to deprive the others of their hard-earned money. How on earth is THAT a win-win deal?
It's called fun Arod..............and unless you're a total idiot it's unlikely you'll spend more than on any other night's entertainment.
There is no house in the case of the apostles tossing lots or a friendly card game, which was the example you responded to.
do you think a friendly card game where real money is used should be illegal?
I don't see why. However, I find it hard to conceive of disciples of Christ playing poker, each hoping to deprive the others of their hard-earned money. How on earth is THAT a win-win deal?
It's called fun Arod..............and unless you're a total idiot it's unlikely you'll spend more than on any other night's entertainment.
Is that about the Apostles? Playing games? Is that what you think lots mean?
tileman
12-26-2002, 07:12 PM
The apostles cast all kinds of lots -- basically rolling the dice after prayer.
For the purpose of stealing each other's money?
How is it stealing if they're all playing the game?
'playing the game' Is that how you see the lotto, a game? Did that man 'earn' $350 million? He doesn't owe God a dime because 'God' didn't give him that money, luck gave him that money and he didn't earn a dime of it. You see nothing wrong with this?
I don't play.............but no I don't. Some people enjoy the heck out of it. Who's business is it to tell people how to spend their money? Would you impose your moral hangups on those that don't have a problem with it?
If you don't enjoy it, don't do it.
tileman
12-26-2002, 07:17 PM
There is no house in the case of the apostles tossing lots or a friendly card game, which was the example you responded to.
do you think a friendly card game where real money is used should be illegal?
I don't see why. However, I find it hard to conceive of disciples of Christ playing poker, each hoping to deprive the others of their hard-earned money. How on earth is THAT a win-win deal?
It's called fun Arod..............and unless you're a total idiot it's unlikely you'll spend more than on any other night's entertainment.
Is that about the Apostles? Playing games? Is that what you think lots mean?
Yeah...........I don't see the apostles as being more than ordinary men........who screwed around and had fun sometimes.
Not that there couldn't have been one or two uptight assholes among them.........but I doubt it.... :P
The apostles cast all kinds of lots -- basically rolling the dice after prayer.
For the purpose of stealing each other's money?
How is it stealing if they're all playing the game?
'playing the game' Is that how you see the lotto, a game? Did that man 'earn' $350 million? He doesn't owe God a dime because 'God' didn't give him that money, luck gave him that money and he didn't earn a dime of it. You see nothing wrong with this?
I don't play.............but no I don't. Some people enjoy the heck out of it. Who's business is it to tell people how to spend their money? Would you impose your moral hangups on those that don't have a problem with it?
If you don't enjoy it, don't do it.
Let's go real slow. Man plays lotto and wins. Man thanks God for making the machine choose his numbers. Man will pay church tithe. Church preaches aganist gambling. Is there something wrong with this picture?
tileman
12-26-2002, 07:32 PM
Sure there's a bit of a problem with that churches credibility but it's hardly the same as taking money from a bank robber like Arod implied.
I'd like to think I'd make proper use of my money whether won or however I got it...........and a big part of that would be in helping others.
Sure there's a bit of a problem with that churches credibility but it's hardly the same as taking money from a bank robber like Arod implied.
I'd like to think I'd make proper use of my money whether won or however I got it...........and a big part of that would be in helping others.
I'm not speaking for arod but I think he was talking about how the money came to the man. He wins a fortune out of luck, God was not envolved, in fact I think in his ignorance he insulted God but that's another story, he wins big and he wants to give God his share???? The money might as well come from a bank robbery as a lotto. God had nothing to do with it, the man owes God nothing, the money was not earned and God did not bless him, he gambled and won and it was luck and nothing more and giving God his share is an insult, hince the robbery comparison.
tileman
12-26-2002, 07:52 PM
Well if I win I'll tell Him you said He had nothing to do with it and that I should keep it all because He wouldn't want it spent in His name....... ;D
Well if I win I'll tell Him you said He had nothing to do with it and that I should keep it all because He wouldn't want it spent in His name....... ;D
I would stand in front of God himself and tell him I sure did tell tileman he didn't owe you a dime of those winnings. ;D
tileman
12-26-2002, 08:01 PM
Well if I win I'll tell Him you said He had nothing to do with it and that I should keep it all because He wouldn't want it spent in His name....... ;D
I would stand in front of God himself and tell him I sure did tell tileman he didn't owe you a dime of those winnings. ;D
Like you wouldn't shit if I won it tomorrow.... ;D
Well if I win I'll tell Him you said He had nothing to do with it and that I should keep it all because He wouldn't want it spent in His name....... ;D
I would stand in front of God himself and tell him I sure did tell tileman he didn't owe you a dime of those winnings. ;D
Like you wouldn't shit if I won it tomorrow.... ;D
You could pay me a tithe, I'll take care of God. ;D
[quote author=arod For the purpose of stealing each other's money?
How is it stealing if they're all playing the game?
The prospective lottery winner is dependent on thousands of other fools who want something for nothing just like he does. That money doesn't come from nowhere, it comes from other people; therefore, it is even less than a zero sum game, because the only one who always wins is the house.
Technically it may not be theft, but it stinks like hell as far as I'm concerned. It's all about proletarian greed.
[/quote]
Never been to Vegas heh pal? :D
Well if I win I'll tell Him you said He had nothing to do with it and that I should keep it all because He wouldn't want it spent in His name....... ;D
I would stand in front of God himself and tell him I sure did tell tileman he didn't owe you a dime of those winnings. ;D
Like you wouldn't shit if I won it tomorrow.... ;D
You could pay me a tithe, I'll take care of God. ;D
Think we could guilt tile into giving it ALL to us? What if we offered him all of our posts?
tileman
12-26-2002, 08:31 PM
You could pay me a tithe, I'll take care of God. ;D
I wouldn't want to defile you with ill gotten gain... ;D
You could pay me a tithe, I'll take care of God. ;D
I wouldn't want to defile you with ill gotten gain... ;D
He is as defiled as they get (except badnews) so give away. And I'm Catholic, already heading to hell, so just hand it over bub!
You could pay me a tithe, I'll take care of God. ;D
I wouldn't want to defile you with ill gotten gain... ;D
He is as defiled as they get (except badnews) so give away. And I'm Catholic, already heading to hell, so just hand it over bub!
Yeah, give away, I'm sure I could work something out with God. ;D
truelies
12-27-2002, 06:12 AM
[quote author=lonestar
Let's go real slow. Man plays lotto and wins. Man thanks God for making the machine choose his numbers. Man will pay church tithe. Church preaches aganist gambling. Is there something wrong with this picture?
[/quote]
Certainly the Church should not use the money to build a new wing or to give the Pastor a Christmas Bonus, but there are vast areas of legit Christian Charity that could consume the money.
truelies
12-27-2002, 06:22 AM
[quote author=lonestar
I'm not speaking for arod but I think he was talking about how the money came to the man. He wins a fortune out of luck, God was not envolved, ....................
[/quote]
The Word tells us that God CAUSES the rain to fall on the just and unjust (in both cases for His Purposes). This I believe says that the events we think of as Natural or Random are in fact controlled by the Hand of God for His Ends and that would include who wins the lottery. That Church should continue to warn the Faithful against Vices (such as gambling) which the surrounding Society allows even as it helps the former gambler divest himself of his ill gotten gain (kinda like the Roman taxfarmer that Christ took under wing.)
Meshuga Mikey
12-28-2002, 10:55 AM
As the rightful owner of the funds that he's promised to tithe, how can there be any discussion as to hus rights to Do With His Money As He Sees Fit?
I STAND behind this Nations Constitution on this~!!!
As the rightful owner of the funds that he's promised to tithe, how can there be any discussion as to hus rights to Do With His Money As He Sees Fit?
I STAND behind this Nations Constitution on this~!!!
Of course it's his money, he won it fair and square, he can do with it what he wants. I just think he was wrong to give God credit for making the machine choose his number.
sodaknomad
12-28-2002, 12:09 PM
Well if I win I'll tell Him you said He had nothing to do with it and that I should keep it all because He wouldn't want it spent in His name....... ;D
I would stand in front of God himself and tell him I sure did tell tileman he didn't owe you a dime of those winnings. ;D
Like you wouldn't shit if I won it tomorrow.... ;D
You could pay me a tithe, I'll take care of God. ;D
Think we could guilt tile into giving it ALL to us? What if we offered him all of our posts?
Tile would love it it'll get him that much closer to his dream date with Sky...8)
tileman
12-28-2002, 01:11 PM
Well if I win I'll tell Him you said He had nothing to do with it and that I should keep it all because He wouldn't want it spent in His name....... ;D
I would stand in front of God himself and tell him I sure did tell tileman he didn't owe you a dime of those winnings. ;D
Like you wouldn't shit if I won it tomorrow.... ;D
You could pay me a tithe, I'll take care of God. ;D
Think we could guilt tile into giving it ALL to us? What if we offered him all of our posts?
Tile would love it it'll get him that much closer to his dream date with Sky...8)
You'd have more posts if it didn't take you half the night to come up with a one liner that didn't make sense soda.....dope de yo doe...... :-* my ass........ ;)
LanceALott
12-28-2002, 01:45 PM
Absolutely! He owes God His cut!
BTW, Lance A. Lott is merely a pen name. My real name is The Lord Jesus Christ and the Lord God Jehovah, or Buddha, or Vishnu, or Hare Krishna, or Wakantakan, or what ever God you believe in. I controle the Lance A. Lotto numbers, either pay me my share, or this God is gonna crap on you..
Email me and I'll tell you where to send the money.
Somebody above said: "It's all about proletarian greed" Shame on you! HOW MUCH DO WE BOLSHEVBIKS OWE YOU TO SHUT UP?
sodaknomad
12-28-2002, 01:50 PM
Absolutely! He owes God His cut!
BTW, Lance A. Lott is merely a pen name. My real name is The Lord Jesus Christ and the Lord God Jehovah, or Buddha, or Vishnu, or Hare Krishna, or Wakantakan, or what ever God you believe in. I controle the Lance A. Lotto numbers, either pay me my share, or this God is gonna crap on you..
Email me and I'll tell you where to send the money.
http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/stupid.gif
Somebody above said: "It's all about proletarian greed" Shame on you! hOW MUCH DO WE bOLSHEVBIKS OWE YOU TO SHUT UP?
Everything you've got...http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/silly.gif
LanceALott
12-28-2002, 01:52 PM
It has been said that Jesus Saves bad girls. Well, ask Him to save a bad girl for me for next Saturday night.
sodaknomad
12-28-2002, 01:58 PM
http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/lolup.gif
LanceALott
12-28-2002, 01:59 PM
Quote:Somebody above said: "It's all about proletarian greed" Shame on you! hOW MUCH DO WE bOLSHEVBIKS OWE YOU TO SHUT UP?
Everything you've got...
LanceALott: Is this engotiaqbleble?
sodaknomad
12-28-2002, 02:04 PM
Nope...
LanceALott
12-28-2002, 02:17 PM
Soke: Nope...
LanceALott: well, alrighty then. Bend over and drop your pants and I'll give you everything I've got.
sure hope yhou aren't disapointed with only 14 inches.
sodaknomad
12-28-2002, 02:20 PM
Sorry, I only expose myself to the ladies...You know that spreading AIDS is a felony in my State.
LanceALott
12-28-2002, 02:28 PM
Soka: Sorry, I only expose myself to the ladies
LanceA: Generally, I'm with you, but in your case I'd of made an execption, cause I'm starting to get sweet on you. But you've got to supply the vassaline and the condom. Hey, I don't go in for anything but safe sex, no matter what the sex.
Slipped Mickey
12-28-2002, 04:59 PM
Sorry mates but many of you assume that money comes from good. Prove it.
Money comes from neither good nor bad. This gentleman wasn't singled out by God! Oh please. ::)
Sorry mates but many of you assume that money comes from good. Prove it.
Money comes from neither good nor bad. This gentleman wasn't singled out by God! Oh please. ::)
My sentiments exactly.
guido
01-16-2003, 03:41 AM
I've always believed that tithing involves a percentage of your worth, not your income. That said, any church that holds gambling in contempt has no business accepting money resulting from it.
The winner can give to the church in other forms. That's what I mean by tithing your worth, and not your income. He's bound to have some useful skill that he can donate in the form of time or labor to the church. If I remember correctly, he's a construction contractor. He's bound to have some knowledge of engineering.
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