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Lance
12-23-2002, 06:26 AM
This from Foxnews today: "There are people in Washington who have been trying to nail me for a long time," Lott said. "When you're from Mississippi and you're a conservative and you're a Christian, there are a lot of people that don't like that. I fell into their trap and so I have only myself to blame."

I am not even sure this man should be a senator, let alone majority leader.

truelies
12-23-2002, 06:34 AM
Beats the shit out of the Mike Espy alternative.

Moonchild
12-23-2002, 06:38 AM
Someone set me up the cross .. al your bases belong to us. ::)

12-23-2002, 06:51 AM
This from Foxnews today: "There are people in Washington who have been trying to nail me for a long time," Lott said. "When you're from Mississippi and you're a conservative and you're a Christian, there are a lot of people that don't like that. I fell into their trap and so I have only myself to blame."

I am not even sure this man should be a senator, let alone majority leader.


He's done a lot for Mississippi and isn't that what a good senator should do?

I think his words were mild compared to a married president of the USA getting a blow job from an intern but Clinton didn't leave his post. I think Lott was correct to a degree, he had many enemies based on who he was and Clinton had many friends who were just like him. Lott got screwed and I'm more pissed at the GOP than the Democrats.

cobe
12-23-2002, 04:15 PM
"He's done a lot for Mississippi"

Like what?

12-23-2002, 04:19 PM
"He's done a lot for Mississippi"

Like what?


Ask the people from Mississippi, they like him.

cobe
12-23-2002, 04:21 PM
Some do, some don't.

I'm asking you, since you made the claim.

12-23-2002, 04:24 PM
Some do, some don't.

I'm asking you, since you made the claim.


I saw a piece on CNN and the people they interviewed had a lot of kind words about him, seems he has brought jobs to Mississippi.

Will see in four years if he still is popular with his people.

Meshuga Mikey
12-23-2002, 04:26 PM
"He's done a lot for Mississippi"

Like what?


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cobe
12-23-2002, 04:43 PM
"seems he has brought jobs to Mississippi."

You mean government creates jobs?

But, don't those jobs come at a cost of other jobs that could have been created but weren't?

Maybe, MORE jobs would have been created were it not for the intervention of government?

This is what is known as the "broken window fallacy" in economics (claims that a politician "created jobs").

Politicians don't create jobs. The free economy creates jobs when politicians leave it alone. Politicians only take away and redistribute jobs.

Now, it's always possible to find people who will say nice things about any politician, no matter how slimy. That doesn't prove anything.

And they may even vote to re-elect that politician - to take an example of one you may not like, Bill Clinton.

However, that doesn't prove that politician has ever actually done anything good for these poor fools who vote for them.

They don't. Polticians contribute nothing. They are parasites, pure and simple.

And Lott is a good example.

Meshuga Mikey
12-23-2002, 04:52 PM
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cobe
12-23-2002, 05:01 PM
Hmmm,

I guess Mikey can't point out anything good Trent Lott has done for Mississippi (or anyone else) either.

I don't play the stupid divide and conquer game. I hate all politicians - Trent Lott, Hillary, Sharpton or what have you. They are all in the business of staeling our money,
destroying our liberty and getting us into war.

In the private sector, these are known as theft/robbery, rape and murder.

Some people act as if putting these same practices under the names of "government" and "politics" somehow makes them good things. It doesn't.

It's still rape, robbery and murder, and politicians are nothing but organized crime under a different name.

And those of you who support Democrats to get rid of Republicans or Republicans to get rid of Democrats are just marks for these con artists.

IM
12-23-2002, 05:03 PM
Trent Lott got screwed?

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! My sides are cramping!

OBTW, there is a difference between a blowjob and support of segregation. Both people consented to the blowjob, segregation was forced upon people by government decree. Specifically state governments.

Finally, Lott has not lost his post. He is still a senator. Clinton was impeached for getting a blowjob. He offended no one personally, unless you either liked Monica Lewinsky, or you were Hillary.

He was impeached for doing something most of the right wingers who hypocritically stood up denouncing him about did at some point in time during their careers.

Lott was stating support for a system which lead to the murder of thousands(reported) and there are still thousands of blacks missing in the south, assumed dead today from the practice of enforcing segregation.

Lott did not get screwed. He turned asexual and fucked himself.

cobe
12-23-2002, 05:06 PM
"Lott did not get screwed. He turned asexual and fucked himself. "

Exactly!

12-23-2002, 05:10 PM
Hmmm,

I guess Mikey can't point out anything good Trent Lott has done for Mississippi (or anyone else) either.

I don't play the stupid divide and conquer game. I hate all politicians - Trent Lott, Hillary, Sharpton or what have you. They are all in the business of staeling our money,
destroying our liberty and getting us into war.

In the private sector, these are known as theft/robbery, rape and murder.

Some people act as if putting these same practices under the names of "government" and "politics" somehow makes them good things. It doesn't.

It's still rape, robbery and murder, and politicians are nothing but organized crime under a different name.

And those of you who support Democrats to get rid of Republicans or Republicans to get rid of Democrats are just marks for these con artists.


Well that is too fucking bad, you must be sad the Soviet Union failed. ::)

cobe
12-23-2002, 05:16 PM
The Soviet Union was based on the idea that politicians "create jobs" and can solve all our problems.

So are the Democrat and Republican parties.

So if anyone would be sad that an empire fell, it wouldn't be an anarchist like me who hates empires and governments.

Any time a government falls, particularly a "superpower", I am overjoyed.

But, those of you who support politicians should be sad that it fell, because it just shows that government doesn't work.

12-23-2002, 05:20 PM
The Soviet Union was based on the idea that politicians "create jobs" and can solve all our problems.

So are the Democrat and Republican parties.

So if anyone would be sad that an empire fell, it wouldn't be an anarchist like me who hates empires and governments.

Any time a government falls, particularly a "superpower", I am overjoyed.

But, those of you who support politicians should be sad that it fell, because it just shows that government doesn't work.


You exist only because of all those things you hate.

cobe
12-23-2002, 05:54 PM
No, despite them.

Others are not so lucky (200 million or so in the last 100 years)

12-23-2002, 06:28 PM
No, despite them.

Others are not so lucky (200 million or so in the last 100 years)


So you believe the nature of man is to live as the animal kingdom does? You really think the only living creature on the earth that kills for joy or selfish gain can live without laws? Man cannot exist without laws, it’s because of laws made by man through government that the vast majority are able to stay alive, to keep people like you away from our door. Without those laws to restrain you I would be forced to blow your head off with my 12-gauge shotgun while you were beating down my door to harm my family. Government may not be perfect but it’s a hell of lot better than what you may have in mind.

cobe
12-23-2002, 07:02 PM
Wrong again. Government is not the only possible source of law.
Polycentric law is a more just system. Examples (not an exhaustive list):

Book of Judges in the Bible
Medieval Ireland and Iceland (see David Friedman's work)
Northern Somalia (links recently furnished. Not the war-torn south)

Britain in the 19th century had a private system of courts

The uS did not have a large standing army until the 1860s, most defense
was militia. Your constitution prohibits standing armies, although it is
ignored as all government constitutions always are

Arbitration and private security agencies

Militia, neighborhood watch (not the Stasi/TIPS version)

More here:

anti-state.com

and here:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/hoppe/hoppe5.html

Here's a few articles for you by Joe Sobran, a former National Review editor

http://sobran.com/columns/021114.shtml

http://sobran.com/columns/021107.shtml

http://sobran.com/columns/021105.shtml

http://sobran.com/columns/021029.shtml

http://sobran.com/columns/021022.shtml

http://sobran.com/columns/021017.shtml


"I would be forced to blow your head off with my 12-gauge shotgun while you were beating down my door to harm my family"

Why would I harm your family? I have no such intention. Besides, if I did, you would be
well within your rights to use that 12 gauge shotgun, so I wouldn't be so stupid.

What would make you think you would need to keep ME away from your door? That I advocate
a system of justice not based on coercion?

"You really think the only living creature on the earth that kills for joy or selfish gain can live without laws?"

I have said no such thing. However, government is not the source of law. In the past, it was understood that law was to be discovered, not made, by the courts (government or otherwise).

Incidentally, the "wild west" was more peaceful than Boston and New York at the same time, much less today.

"Man cannot exist without laws, it’s because of laws made by man through government that the vast majority are able to stay alive,"

Far from true. Law does not have to be made by government, and I am not against law. I am against a *monopoly on its enforcement*

And governments do not keep us alive. They have killed 200 million of their own citizens in the past hundred years, and many more in wars. That includes the US. So those of us who are alive are so despite, not because, of government.

12-24-2002, 05:44 AM
Maybe we should be having a discussion about good and evil. I believe in both and as long as evil exists our best defense is an organized government. What happened 500 years ago or 2,000 years no longer applies since as knowledge increases so does evil. If history has taught us anything it's man cannot live in peace. You may hate this government but it's the best thing to come along in an imperfect world that has allowed you and me the freedom to come on here and post our opinions. What will destroy us is contentions from within, if we are not united we will be destroyed.

cobe
12-24-2002, 08:28 AM
"I believe in both and as long as evil exists our best defense is an organized government."

I believe that organized government is itself the greatest source of organized evil.

"What happened 500 years ago or 2,000 years no longer applies since as knowledge increases so does evil."

Not necessarily true that it no longer applies, as "the more things change the more they remain the same". Nevertheless, not all my examples were ancient, and even if I had no examples at all, that would not necessarily mean I was wrong. After all, until fairly recently, those who proposed that we could do without slavery and monarchy could hardly point to any more examples than I can.

It is true, however, that evil increases, so we can see just how murderous governments have become in the last hundred years or so.

"If history has taught us anything it's man cannot live in peace. "

Sometimes true, sometimes not, yet government is certainly no solution.

"You may hate this government but it's the best thing to come along in an imperfect world that has allowed you and me the freedom to come on here and post our opinions."

Nonsense. We have that freedom naturally unless something, such as a government, prevents it. Many governments do not, so it's hardly the best.

"What will destroy us is contentions from within, if we are not united we will be destroyed. "

If you are united, it is more likely that you will be destroyed.