Is 1 John 5:7-8 really scripture?

There is no record of this statement in any manuscript prior to 700 A.D. It was added to the bible. In the 4th. century A.D. it was found as a 'note' on the margin of John's manuscript. When the Vulgate was created it found it's way into the body of scripture. Was it added by man or did it come from God?

created by man.

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Chapter in context-


Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is begotten by God, and everyone who loves the father loves (also) the one begotten by him.
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In this way we know that we love the children of God when we love God and obey his commandments.
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For the love of God is this, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome,
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for whoever is begotten by God conquers the world. And the victory that conquers the world is our faith.
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Who (indeed) is the victor over the world but the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
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This is the one who came through water and blood, 2 Jesus Christ, not by water alone, but by water and blood. The Spirit is the one that testifies, and the Spirit is truth.
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So there are three that testify,
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the Spirit, the water, and the blood, and the three are of one accord.
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If we accept human testimony, the testimony of God is surely greater. Now the testimony of God is this, that he has testified on behalf of his Son.
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Whoever believes in the Son of God has this testimony within himself. Whoever does not believe God has made him a liar by not believing the testimony God has given about his Son.
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And this is the testimony: God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
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Whoever possesses the Son has life; whoever does not possess the Son of God does not have life.
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3 I write these things to you so that you may know that you have eternal life, you who believe in the name of the Son of God.
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And we have this confidence in him, that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
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And if we know that he hears us in regard to whatever we ask, we know that what we have asked him for is ours.
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If anyone sees his brother sinning, if the sin is not deadly, he should pray to God and he will give him life. This is only for those whose sin is not deadly. There is such a thing as deadly sin, about which I do not say that you should pray.
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All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin that is not deadly.
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We know that no one begotten by God sins; but the one begotten by God he protects, and the evil one cannot touch him.
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We know that we belong to God, and the whole world is under the power of the evil one.
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We also know that the Son of God has come and has given us discernment to know the one who is true. And we are in the one who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
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Children, be on your guard against idols.

Lonestar- Are the verses in question included in the Mormon Bible? These verses are key to one of the major points of contention between Mormonism and orthodox Christianity- the idea of the Trinity.

King James Version.

Actually there is no 'Mormon bible'. We use the King James Version. Of course we also have the Book of Mormon but this scripture has nothing to do with that book.

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King James Version.


My understanding is that we are not talking just any off the shelf King James Bible, but an edition edited by Joseph Smith.

King James Version.


My understanding is that we are not talking just any off the shelf King James Bible, but an edition edited by Joseph Smith.


No, off the shelf KJV

Joseph Smith started a translation of the bible but never finished it before he was killed. Although what he did do is included in the back of the LDS version of the scriptures, the bible we use is the King James version.

[tileman]

I think someone slipped in Acts on the sly, myself.....No big deal, I just skip it

I think someone slipped in Acts on the sly, myself.....No big deal, I just skip it


You skip Acts? One of the most powerful books of the New Testament and you think it's phony?

[tileman]

I think someone slipped in Acts on the sly, myself.....No big deal, I just skip it


You skip Acts? One of the most powerful books of the New Testament and you think it's phony?


Powerful for the church maybe, and does a good puff job for the apostles...........It doesn't seem real.

I think someone slipped in Acts on the sly, myself.....No big deal, I just skip it


You skip Acts? One of the most powerful books of the New Testament and you think it's phony?


Powerful for the church maybe, and does a good puff job for the apostles...........It doesn't seem real.


Interesting. Do you think the Gospel of Luke is ‘unreal’? Luke wrote Acts. It’s known as the key to the letters of Paul.

[tileman]

I think someone slipped in Acts on the sly, myself.....No big deal, I just skip it


You skip Acts? One of the most powerful books of the New Testament and you think it's phony?


Powerful for the church maybe, and does a good puff job for the apostles...........It doesn't seem real.


Interesting. Do you think the Gospel of Luke is ‘unreal’? Luke wrote Acts. It’s known as the key to the letters of Paul.


I don't have a problem with the gospels..........though I'm not sure how I feel about some of Paul's letters being made "scripture", particularly when he says it's from him and not God right in them.

I think someone slipped in Acts on the sly, myself.....No big deal, I just skip it


You skip Acts? One of the most powerful books of the New Testament and you think it's phony?


Powerful for the church maybe, and does a good puff job for the apostles...........It doesn't seem real.


Interesting. Do you think the Gospel of Luke is ‘unreal’? Luke wrote Acts. It’s known as the key to the letters of Paul.


I don't have a problem with the gospels..........though I'm not sure how I feel about some of Paul's letters being made "scripture", particularly when he says it's from him and not God right in them.


If you were a Gentile in the Gentile church, wouldn't you favor anything Paul wrote and excluded anything else that didn't fit your picture of the gospel?

Although I think Paul hits on many truths I tend to agree with you his letter's have been raised to the level of nothing but God's word.