Best Barbecue

[Slipped Mickey]

Every once in a while I want eastern Carolina barbeque sandwiches so bad I can't stand it. There are some good places for BBQ sandwiches from Richmond to South Carolina - all on the eastern seaboard. Inland the sauce tends toward tomato based garbage that isn't fit for consumption. Even worse it becomes tomato based and sweet.

I like vinegar and/or mustard based sauce only. Parkers in Wilson, NC is outstanding. Their Brunswick stew is so good it'll make you slap your grandmother. Mitchel's in Wilson is excellent as well.

The best ribs I have ever eaten were at Charlie Vargas in Memphis. Dry rub. Sweet Jesus was it forever more good. After I finish eating there I always rub it all over my beard and hair and all over my clothes so it'll stay with me for a while. Helps if you don't take a shower for a few days.

The place I've ever had pork ribs with a sauce (and it is tomato based - all rules have exceptions) is Montgomery's in Cincinnati. My Confederate ancestors must rolling in their graves when I say that but I've had none better.

Georgia may have improved but I have yet to find good BBQ in Georgia. Sorry. It's is my home, it's where my people are and are from but unless somebody moved to Georgia from South Carolina and opened a BBQ place you can't find good BBQ in Georgia.

Texas BBQ is good but they don't know shit about cooking pork. Texas BBQ sausage is excellent. Texas BBQ beef is good also. There's a place in Fort Worth - the name escapes me - that has fantastic BBQ. But no pork. Stubbs in Austin is OK but I've had better.

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Anyone have a favorite BBQ place and/or recipe?

[Satan]

You know this is going to end up being moved to the Inferno, don't you? ;D

[Slipped Mickey]

You know this is going to end up being moved to the Inferno, don't you? ;D


<smiling> I know before I typed the first sentence. It can be more volitile than religion.

I'm mighty partial to vinegar based sauces myself. Preferably HOT.

Since I can't get any of the good sauce around here unless I make my own, I just use ketchup on microwaved ribs. <shrugs>

On a positive note, when things are really cruel, and times are lean, Mc Ribs comes back every now and again.

[Slipped Mickey]

I'm mighty partial to vinegar based sauces myself. Preferably HOT.

Since I can't get any of the good sauce around here unless I make my own, I just use ketchup on microwaved ribs. <shrugs>


<patooey> Spit that shit out. I'll get you the address for some good NC vinegar sauce (hot). I have it, I just have to find it. We order it from NC but we gave our last jar to some friends and now I have to look the address up. Then you gotta stop microwaving that stuff. (I can't even believe you posted that on the Internet. I mean I've done some things I am not proud of but goddam bn I wouldn't be telling folks that on the Internet.)

You gotta slow cook the pork on coals. A whole pig cooked on the ground over a bed of coals is best but I don't know that there would be enough people in your immediate vicinity who'd be interested in it to warrant cooking a whole pig.

[wendy]

You know this is going to end up being moved to the Inferno, don't you? ;D


Aw, come on..he's got a valid point. How good can our BBQ be if Sony's real pit BBQ is still in business? ::)

You know this is going to end up being moved to the Inferno, don't you? ;D


Aw, come on..he's got a valid point. How good can our BBQ be if Sony's real pit BBQ is still in business? ::)


Go to Slopes on Hwy 92.

[wendy]

Two brothers isn't bad but I'm not up in that area very often. Dreamland and Swallow at the Hollow are the two closest decent places.

[wendy]

Go to Slopes on Hwy 92.


Slpoes is OK. They used to have the majority of bbq business in Roswell until Dreamland opened up.

Go to Slopes on Hwy 92.


Slpoes is OK. They used to have the majority of bbq business in Roswell until Dreamland opened up.


I haven't been there. I date a couple of guys who live in that area though, maybe one of them will take me there sometime.

[Persephone]

There is a place around here that people really brag about. It is somewhere out in the middle of the woods, but people drive for miles to get there. It's run by an old black woman. They have only sweet tea served in mason jars to drink, and they give you dish towels for napkins. They are famous for having the best BBQ ever.

I, of course, have never been there as I have nothing but disdain for the eating of animal flesh. But if you came to visit me, and I loved you enough, I would take you there. ;)

[Satan]

Did I tell you how particularly enchanting you look this evening? :-*

Did I tell you how particularly enchanting you look this evening? :-*


Still kissing Wendy's ass?

[Persephone]

Did I tell you how particularly enchanting you look this evening? :-*



Well, that's a start.... :)

[Satan]

I can't even believe you posted that on the Internet. I mean I've done some things I am not proud of but goddam bn I wouldn't be telling folks that on the Internet.

Amen. That was blaphemous, wasn't it?

badnews, Man, you have GOT to come back to visit the Southland. You have lost your barbeque groove.

Mickey D's has never sold, will never sell, barbeque. That 'Slab O' Gristle and Fat' on a bun? Yecccch... :P

and THERE IS NO KETCHUP IN BARBEQUE SAUCE.

Get your ass on a plane before you pass out. ;D

[Satan]

Still kissing Wendy's ass?


C'mon, now. Cut me some slack, will ya? I'm tryin' to score some barbeque here.

Still kissing Wendy's ass?


C'mon, now. Cut me some slack, will ya? I'm tryin' to score some barbeque here.


I'll get you some barbecue cutey! :-*

[Satan]

Y'know, I've never been to any of those places that you and Wendy mentioned (except Sonny's :P). Sprayberry's is right down the road from my house (has been since 1928), so I never drive to Atlanta.

Mick says he's coming to town in the spring, and I made him promise me lunch at Sprayberry's for a keyboard he ruined. Maybe we all oughta get together and 'pig' out.

I guess I could drag my hermit ass to the big city...

[Slipped Mickey]

Y'know, I've never been to any of those places that you and Wendy mentioned (except Sonny's :P). Sprayberry's is right down the road from my house (has been since 1928), so I never drive to Atlanta.

Mick says he's coming to town in the spring, and I made him promise me lunch at Sprayberry's for a keyboard he ruined. Maybe we all oughta get together and 'pig' out.

I guess I could drag my hermit ass to the big city...




If I'm not mistaken Sonny's is out of Florida. Ain't but about 15 people in Florida even know what the hell BBQ is and Sonny isn't one of them.

Sprayberry's. You mentioned that before Sky and I'm gonna take you up on that. Wendy can come too if she promises not to get liquored up and rowdy. Seems like I remember Lewis Grizzard writing about Sprayberry's.

Sounds like a good plan to me. Where do you live? You can e-mail or message me if you don't want it all over the forum.

[Satan]

I live in Newnan, Lizzie. And yes, Lewis raved about Sprayberry's (his hometown is about 10 miles south of here). His favorite was (IIRC) something gross like a hamburger with brunswick stew on it. :P

But we don't have to worry about Wendy getting likkered up there. They have sweet tea and old-fashioned milkshakes, but there ain't no spirits. Hell, they don't even open up on Sunday.

I live in Newnan, Lizzie. And yes, Lewis raved about Sprayberry's (his hometown is about 10 miles south of here). His favorite was (IIRC) something gross like a hamburger with brunswick stew on it. :P

But we don't have to worry about Wendy getting likkered up there. They have sweet tea and old-fashioned milkshakes, but there ain't no spirits. Hell, they don't even open up on Sunday.


Newnan has some beautiful old houses. I'm currently living in Acworth, but I'm about to move to Carrollton to attend West GA. I'm pretty happy about the move as the SCA group I'm part of is very active out there.

[Satan]

No shit? I went to WGC for about 3 quarters (right outta HS). I have only 3 or 4 distinct memories about it, and since it's 2 AM and I'm bored, I'll recount them all to you. ;D

On the first day of 'orientation', a young lady walks up to me (sweet-looking thang), and the following conversation ensues:

She: "Did you get the hot dogs?"
Me: ???
She: "C'mon, Greg, stop playing."
Me: ???
She: Look, the party starts at 6, and your ass better show up with the hot dogs."
Me (finally): Sorry, but I'm not 'Greg'.
She: "OH MY GOD! You look exactly like a guy named Greg...This is just incredible!...I'm sorry, I didn't mean to embarrass you..."
Me: :-[ :-[

(It took me a long time to realize that I had been completely WHOOSHED, and that her girlfriends had all probably giggled their asses off at my naivte.)

My Psych 101 prof walked in the first day of class, sat ON his desk in a lotus position, and didn't say a word for ten minutes. When the silence finally got really uncomfortable, he said "Well, what are we going to talk about?" That was about the extent of his curriculum, but he was a really cool guy. Don't remember his name, only that he had one HUGE bushy eyebrow that ran all the way across his face. In his class I also met up with a girl named Beth that I went to HS with, and since we both commuted, we started carpooling.

I became friends with a couple of guys who lived on campus who were classical guitarists. I thought I was a pretty good guitar player myself, but these guys were amazing. I started hanging out in their room until all hours, getting fried and jamming, then driving home for 2 or 3 hours sleep, which eventually became my undoing at WGC.

The last quarter I was there, I took a suicide class -- 8 AM World History, with Prof. Ferling. I remember him distinctly, because he talked in a MONOTONE. At 8 o'clock in the fucking morning. I could NOT stay awake. Beth had a 9 o'clock class, so we started stopping at the Dunkin Donuts every morning and talking over coffee instead of going to my WH class. Not long after that we were talking through her 9 o'clock as well, and before long we were just talking each other out of going to classes at all.

And there you have it. The sum total of my WGC experience. It took awhile before I developed the self-discipline necessary to go back to college, and even then I moved to Birmingham to avoid distraction. 8)

And just to throw in a food reference, I don't know if it's still there, but the Maple St. Mansion used to be the BEST place for pizza and beer. ;)

No shit? I went to WGC for about 3 quarters (right outta HS). I have only 3 or 4 distinct memories about it, and since it's 2 AM and I'm bored, I'll recount them all to you. ;D

On the first day of 'orientation', a young lady walks up to me (sweet-looking thang), and the following conversation ensues:

She: "Did you get the hot dogs?"
Me: ???
She: "C'mon, Greg, stop playing."
Me: ???
She: Look, the party starts at 6, and your ass better show up with the hot dogs."
Me (finally): Sorry, but I'm not 'Greg'.
She: "OH MY GOD! You look exactly like a guy named Greg...This is just incredible!...I'm sorry, I didn't mean to embarrass you..."
Me: :-[ :-[

(It took me a long time to realize that I had been completely WHOOSHED, and that her girlfriends had all probably giggled their asses off at my naivte.)

My Psych 101 prof walked in the first day of class, sat ON his desk in a lotus position, and didn't say a word for ten minutes. When the silence finally got really uncomfortable, he said "Well, what are we going to talk about?" That was about the extent of his curriculum, but he was a really cool guy. Don't remember his name, only that he had one HUGE bushy eyebrow that ran all the way across his face. In his class I also met up with a girl named Beth that I went to HS with, and since we both commuted, we started carpooling.

I became friends with a couple of guys who lived on campus who were classical guitarists. I thought I was a pretty good guitar player myself, but these guys were amazing. I started hanging out in their room until all hours, getting fried and jamming, then driving home for 2 or 3 hours sleep, which eventually became my undoing at WGC.

The last quarter I was there, I took a suicide class -- 8 AM World History, with Prof. Ferling. I remember him distinctly, because he talked in a MONOTONE. At 8 o'clock in the fucking morning. I could NOT stay awake. Beth had a 9 o'clock class, so we started stopping at the Dunkin Donuts every morning and talking over coffee instead of going to my WH class. Not long after that we were talking through her 9 o'clock as well, and before long we were just talking each other out of going to classes at all.

And there you have it. The sum total of my WGC experience. It took awhile before I developed the self-discipline necessary to go back to college, and even then I moved to Birmingham to avoid distraction. 8)

And just to throw in a food reference, I don't know if it's still there, but the Maple St. Mansion used to be the BEST place for pizza and beer. ;)







That's why I didn't start college until I was 24, then I took three years off, it was supposed to be a year. I was totally burnt out though. I worked full-time, went to school full-time and maintained a 3.5 GPA. During all of that time I was also trying to have a life as well. I needed the three-years to decompress.

Try this. It's super simple and will keep in the fridge for a couple of months so you can use it whenever you want:

Eastern North Carolina-Style Barbecue Sauce

1 c White vinegar

1 tb Tabasco sauce

1 c Cider vinegar

Salt—to taste

1 tb Sugar

1 tsp Freshly cracked black pepper

1 tb Crushed red pepper flakes To taste


Just mix them all together and there you go. Store in the fridge.

[wendy]

If I'm not mistaken Sonny's is out of Florida. Ain't but about 15 people in Florida even know what the hell BBQ is and Sonny isn't one of them.

Sprayberry's. You mentioned that before Sky and I'm gonna take you up on that. Wendy can come too if she promises not to get liquored up and rowdy. Seems like I remember Lewis Grizzard writing about Sprayberry's.


Grizzard talked and wrote about Sprayberry's all the time. I swear, he was obsessed with BBQ. If you haven't seen it, his foundation set up a website where they run his old stuff weekly.

http://www.lewisgrizzard.com/

[Satan]

Check this out:

Grant's li'l bbq page (http://www.geocities.com/popocalypse/bbq.html)

This guy's got comments on every bbq joint in GA.

I like this one:

Sonny's BBQ, everywhere and Hell too
"When you want a really good cheeseburger, do you go to McDonald's? If you answered "yes," try this shit."

;D