Nickles should replace Lott

[Thunder Bay]

I agree that somebody should replace Lott. He makes too many compromises with the minority party in secret and has a problem with his mouth and brain not being connected. The senate needs an intelligent leader just as a novelty. ;D

[Thunder Bay]

Foghorn Leghorn. ;D

[wendy]

The Republicans believe by taking the high road, they will earn the respect of the American people. In reality, every time they try to "impress" us they lose power.

If Lott loses his position as Majority Leader, the odds are he will resign his seat. The senate will then be a 50-50 split with Cheney casting the tie breaking vote. You can bet your ass there will be at least one republican defection to the democratic camp giving them the majority in the Senate.

The last 10 years have shown the American people are more concerned with RESULTS than honesty or integrity. Are the Republicans really going to commit political suicide AGAIN?

It's time for the Republicans to stand up and fight against the democratic spin machine. If you don't do it this time, you may never have another chance.

[Thunder Bay]

Wendy;

I'll take the 50/50 split with the VP advantage over Lott remaining as visible and clueless as he is; he makes all politicians look bad, and that's hard to do. Out with his dumbass! ;D

[wendy]

Wendy;

I'll take the 50/50 split with the VP advantage over Lott remaining as visible and clueless as he is; he makes all politicians look bad, and that's hard to do. Out with his dumbass! ;D


You're assuming that no other Republican will defect to the dems.

[Thunder Bay]

Wendy;

You're assuming that they will. ;D

[wendy]

Wendy;

You're assuming that they will. ;D


You don't think Lincoln Chafee would defect to get his "issues" addressed?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

[sodaknomad]

Hate to say this, TB, but Wendy's right. I'm of the belief that if Lott leaves the Senate, either Chafee or Benidict Arlen Spector will jump ship. I don't particularily like Lott, but I'll swallow my pride and take Lott over my senile "senator."

[Slipped Mickey]

Wendy;

I'll take the 50/50 split with the VP advantage over Lott remaining as visible and clueless as he is; he makes all politicians look bad, and that's hard to do. Out with his dumbass! ;D


You're assuming that no other Republican will defect to the dems.


There will be other defections, I agree. One thing we have seen of late is as both parties have become soooo much alike both are on a second away from another "scandal". There is a mad scramble by both parties to distance themselves from each other. The problem is of course the distance is narrowing not widening. This is causing more opportunities to create a scandal for the opposing party.

Inside there isn't that much of difference and jumping ship is going to become easier than it once was.

[Thunder Bay]

Hey, ya'll;

What's the worst that could happen? It could return to the way it's been for forty years? Will it be worse than the clinton years? I don't think so. However, Wendy knows the BIGDOG agrees with me about Lott; where is doggie-chops, anyway?? ;D ;D ;D

[sodaknomad]

Hey, ya'll;

What's the worst that could happen? It could return to the way it's been for forty years? Will it be worse than the clinton years? I don't think so. However, Wendy knows the BIGDOG agrees with me about Lott; where is doggie-chops, anyway?? ;D ;D ;D


Nope, it's going to be more like the last two years, when absolutely nothing was accomplished. Think about it. Do you REALLY want CommieTommie D'Asshole to "lead" the US Senate? Hell, [s]he isn't able to "lead" his "home" State, which is why we ran [s]him out...

[Thunder Bay]

Sodak;

It says at the top that I want Nickles; why would you think I would want Tiny Tommy?????? ??? ;D ???

[Jethro Tull]

The rumor that Lott would resign his seat if he loses his leadership position (which would allow a Democratic governor to appoint his replacement) is just that - and probably floated by Lott to preempt the move to dump his sorry ass.

If he would do that sort of damage to the party - and the country - out of personal spite for being held accountable for his own screw-up, well, is the sort we would want as a leader, or even in the senate at all?

It is a further stretch to assume another defection. Chaffee is the only one potentially close to that type of decision, and he has a long family history in the GOP. Also, he does have leverage if he stays put: he is not blind and can see the situation Jeffords has created for himself. At most, it would be a two year lark, followed by a tiny closet for an office if the GOP wins a seat in '04, which is rather likely (8 of the 19 seats the Dems will be defending are in states Bush won by 15% or more in '00).

It is not so cut and dried as is implied in previous posts. The politics are in flux. But, leaving those arguments aside, deposing Lott is the right thing to do.

[wendy]

Deposing Lott because he is an incompetant and ineffective leader would make sense. This push is caused by perceived public opinion. Why didn't the R's dump his sorry ass years ago? He was pathetic and useless long before he opened his mouth and inserted both feet.

[Jethro Tull]

Deposing Lott because he is an incompetant and ineffective leader would make sense. This push is caused by perceived public opinion. Why didn't the R's dump his sorry ass years ago? He was pathetic and useless long before he opened his mouth and inserted both feet.


Oh, I absolutely agree. I never supported the idiot, since about 5 minutes after he got the job.

It is not so much his statements this time, as his utter stupidity in making them. Lott has been on the hot seat for the same exact words before, and his long relationship with the Council of Conservative Citizens, which opposes interracial marriage. Given that background, he should have known to watch what he said.

To dump him previously would have caused damage within the party. Now, all the GOPers are feeling the taint of the anti-Lott campaign, so there won't be so many hard feelings left by his departure (except maybe his own, but he has no one to blame but the chap in the mirror).

Plus, his hairpiece is almost as bad as Ted Koppel's. I know it isn't germane, but while I was piling on, I thought it should be mentioned. ;)

[Lance]

As I'm not a Republican, my opinion carries exactly that much weight..nada!

Lott, IMHO has been incompetent from the day he hit the Senate. He is more interested in the perks than he is in his own party. If he did indeed float these "rumors" just to stop talk of getting rid of him, then indeed he is what many of the ultra-conservatives have charged for years---RINO!

If he had any real "loyalty" to party and principle, he probably ought to resign the majority leader's position and save himself AND most importantly the party the continual sideshow that his presence will now command. In fact, if I remember the news on how this last "leadership" election was held, it was clear Lott was more interested in maintaining his position than anything else.

The cat is out of the bag and his remarks over the years are coming back to haunt him. In fact, he probably never should have been elected in the first place with that kind of an attitude, but somehow it was overlooked. Much like Clinton's horrible character flaws were overlooked.

Political parties are only interested in one thing and THAT is keeping the status quo. That is why the Republicans chickened out on taking care of business with Clinton. And I suspect Lott will hold his seat and position.

I don't get you Republicans. Instead of standing behind your man you feed him to the wolves.

Is there ever going to be a day when you stop making excuses for mistakes and just be for the people who you vote into office?

Who are these republicans you are addressing? I'm not sure there are any posters here from Miss. (that is Lott's state isn't it? Either way you get the point).

I would have to say that it is a good thing for people to realize that they made a mistake. I didn't vote for Lott but if I had I would now be regretting that error. Just think if the dems were clever enough to do that. We wouldn't have had a second term with that amoral hillbilly and his criminal wife.

[Jethro Tull]

According to NRO's David Frum, Lott has promised the White House that he won't resign his Senate seat if he loses his leadership position.

OAG ~ Frum makes the same point you did:

With Don Nickle’s call for a new election for Senate Majority Leader, Lott’s fate at last became inescapable. There will be a new election – and Lott will lose. In a last desperate maneuver, Lott is reported this weekend to have asked the White House for an endorsement from Colin Powell. Good luck! Colin Powell only barely brought himself to endorse George W. Bush in 2000, and Bush was offering him Secretary of State. Instead of getting something from the White House, Lott had to give – a guarantee that he would stay in the Senate even if defeated, thus preventing Mississippi’s Democratic governor from replacing him with a fellow-Democrat and tipping the Senate back to 50-50. Tough guy that Karl Rove.

This Lott business has been painful and dangerous for the Republican party. Yet Republicans have nevertheless insisted almost unanimously on accepting that pain and danger in order to hold their leaders to a moral standard. If Democrats felt the same way, the impeachment of Bill Clinton would have had a very different ending - and Al Gore would very likely be president today rather than a disgruntled author bitterly tabulating his sales. Honesty after all is still the best policy.


Full column here. (http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/diary121602.asp)

[LanceALott]

Hey, you can't replace this Lott with nickles. It takes big bucks to buy me off. I can be had, but I ain't cheap.

BTW, Trent is the black sheep of us Lotts, completely stupid, totally corrupt, and a typical Republican. I would dissown him, except I'm not really a Lott. That's just a rather korney pen name.

[Jethro Tull]

Hey, you can't replace this Lott with nickles. It takes big bucks to buy me off. I can be had, but I ain't cheap.

BTW, Trent is the black sheep of us Lotts, completely stupid, totally corrupt, and a typical Republican. I would dissown him, except I'm not really a Lott. That's just a rather korney pen name.


Wow, no kidding? Sure had me fooled . . .

Well Frum is obviously a genius too. :)

[Slipped Mickey]

As Lance says I don't have a dog in this fight either. It's all bullshit to me. The Hill is nothing if not a collection of the nation's suckers, dummies and fools. The people that should replace Lott wouldn't stand a chance working with the fools on the Hill. The thread should be entitled "Who's your favorite criminal?" Think for a second about the people from your own state who represent you in Washington. Ugly ain't it?

Here in Arizona Sen. John Kyl said of Lott, "We have a responsibility to all the Republicans across the country." What the hell was that? For or against? That pretty much sums up the way Kyl responds to everything. Gutless, political and self-serving. And Kyl is said to be one of the better people in Washington. ::)

I am sooooo dog tired of partisan politics I can't fucking stand it. Honest. Every other minute we are reminded "our nation is at war" and then the next minute these assholes are bickering over partisan issues. How about the economy? Drug prices? Education? Our porous borders? The dire financial future faced by most state governments? The furture of North Korea? South America's potential to be blow up in our faces? And oh yeah, how about the security of this country and the war. Remember the war?

There isn't one goddam bit of unity in Washington. You tell me what the focus is? I stopped listening to Rush 6 months ago as ALL he ever talks about now is partisan politics. That's all they talk about in Washington. It would be excellent if we had a national leader who would exhibit his power and influence to stop all of this shit. It would be grand if a national leader - say like maybe a president - would get this county's leadership (such that it is) focused on the dire issues that face America. But that's just not going to happen. Bush is apparently not the leader we need. Either he can't get this nation focused or he doesn't see the need. I have to say it but many of us knew Bush would not be able to lead. It was said time and time again. We are seeing it now in spades (oh, bad choice of words). In the meantime Congress is out of control, partisanship IS what defines Washington these days while the no one is focused on the real issues.

Think about it from a GOP point of view which is difficult as the GOP never really has a point of view. The one thing the GOP never sees is the big picture. Bush could stand behind Lott, tell everyone to shut the hell up. Lott is no worse than John Conyers and a few others. We all know that. Bush could save GOP control of both houses by strongly supporting Lott, but nooooo, Bush is more concerned about losing the Black vote (which he doesn't have anyway). Bush wants to be re-elected. That's where his head is. By LEADING the nation Bush could do both, save Lott and win in 2004. Bush is weak and for him every issue counts whether it should be an issue or not. Because of a HUGE lack of leadership at the top the GOP might very well lose it's control and the Bush agenda will languish in the dust of a battle that was lost due to lack of national leadership.

For the record I didn't vote for Bush nor for ANY of my representatives in Washington. I practice term limits at the ballot box. Maybe it's an idea that will catch on once everyone becomes tired of sending these self-serving assholes to Washington.

[LanceALott]

Trent Lott's mouth, once a weapon of mass deception, has become a weapon of mass destruction, self-destruction. Trent was heard to say," I open my mouth, and destroyed mass.

[greginboise]

After watching him cravenly beg forgiveness from the nigroes on BET last night, I think we can't get rid of him fast enough. And if this causes those spineless RINO's back east to roll over, so what. It's time to cull the herd anyway. If Lott has a hair on his ass, he'll take his whuppin', and sit on the back bench and support the President like a man. Otherwise, who needs him.

[Slipped Mickey]

Lott's BET gig sounds as if it was painful to watch. I heard that he said he supports affirmative action and MLK day. Lott is dumber than hammered shit. Only the uneducated or most radical blacks support affirmative action. The rest of the world knows that. Lott doesn't?

More than that think about this - Lott appeared on a segregated network (BET) to tell the black community how much he is in favor of desegregation!!! This entire thing is loaded bullshit. The GOP being uncomfortable with where it stands on Black issues (Why? Because as usual the GOP doesn't actually know how it feels collectively and thus they are ONCE AGAIN at a major disadvantage) is jumping through hoops at the behest of Blacks and Democrats. Bush has - as usual - decided not to be decisive. The GOP as a group is looking worse in this matter than they should. The Democrats and Blacks are pulling the strings as Rome burns.

[wendy]

It offends me that some people actually believe Lott owes them an APOLOGY. For what? Did he try and pass segregation legislation last term? Did he try and eliminate the 14th amenendment? ::)

If I demanded an apology everytime someone in congress said something to piss me off, I'd have to spend every minute of the rest of my life demanding apologies.

The BC and the SCLC need to GROW UP. Unless you live in Mississippi, Lott isn't acountable to you in any way, shape or form.

The Republicans need to grow up as well. This week, Time magazine (the official mouthpiece of the DNC) wrote a piece about the history of Republican racism. It was an utter fabrication that left out all the FACTS about which party has actually done more to help minorities in this nation. Will the Republicans head to the microphones to set the record straight? HELL NO. They will quiver and cower like a bunch of spineless bastards. Same shit, different day. >:(

[sodaknomad]

Have a look here (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121602/content/truth_detector.guest.html), here (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121602/content/who_stands_in_the_schoolhouse_door_today_.guest.ht ml), here (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121602/content/institute.guest.html), and here (http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121602/content/rush_on_a_roll.guest.html).

[LanceALott]

Slipped Mickey: Think for a second about the people from your own state who represent you in Washington. Ugly ain't it?

LL: Oh, I don’t know about ugly. Wyoming’s lone Congressman is actually a congresswoman, Barbra Cubin. In her college days, long ago, she wasn’t bad looking. In fact she was a perfect woman, good looking and dumber than a post, would do anything on a date you suggested. Before becoming famous in Wyo she was a state represenative, and her only claim to fame is that one day she baked and distributed penis cookies. I shit you not, she’s a Republican and those cookies she gave out at the state legislature were supposed to look like a male sex organ. Since she went to Washington, I haven’t heard a thing about her, and that’s probably good for our state. Lott’s state would be better off if they never heard of him again.

Mickey: There isn't one goddam bit of unity in Washington. You tell me what the focus is? a national leader who would exhibit his power and influence to stop all of this shit.

LL: I’m afraid the last national leader who exhibited his power and influence to try to stop the USA from making that big mistake of the Vietnam War got blown away in Dallas.

Mickey: The Democrats and Blacks are pulling the strings as Rome burns.

LL: right, that’s the stupid Dems, but the fingerprints on the torch belong to Lott and the ones on the violin belong to the Burning Bush. Nero, where are you when Rome needs you? Oh, yeah, you are playing the violin as your legions burn Rome to put The People back to work rebuilding it. I doubt Lott or Bush can play any musical instrument other than a skin flute; and we already know it's the Dems who supply the musical insturment.

[lucy]

Conspiracy reigns!

I think the master plan is to have a "dreadlocked" Senate--just like what happened when Jeffords supposedly flew the GOP coop.....

[Slipped Mickey]

Slipped Mickey: Think for a second about the people from your own state who represent you in Washington. Ugly ain't it?

LL: Oh, I don’t know about ugly. Wyoming’s lone Congressman is actually a congresswoman, Barbra Cubin. In her college days, long ago, she wasn’t bad looking. In fact she was a perfect woman, good looking and dumber than a post, would do anything on a date you suggested. Before becoming famous in Wyo she was a state represenative, and her only claim to fame is that one day she baked and distributed penis cookies. I shit you not, she’s a Republican and those cookies she gave out at the state legislature were supposed to look like a male sex organ. Since she went to Washington, I haven’t heard a thing about her, and that’s probably good for our state. Lott’s state would be better off if they never heard of him again.

Mickey: There isn't one goddam bit of unity in Washington. You tell me what the focus is? a national leader who would exhibit his power and influence to stop all of this shit.

LL: I’m afraid the last national leader who exhibited his power and influence to try to stop the USA from making that big mistake of the Vietnam War got blown away in Dallas.

Mickey: The Democrats and Blacks are pulling the strings as Rome burns.

LL: right, that’s the stupid Dems, but the fingerprints on the torch belong to Lott and the ones on the violin belong to the Burning Bush. Nero, where are you when Rome needs you? Oh, yeah, you are playing the violin as your legions burn Rome to put The People back to work rebuilding it. I doubt Lott or Bush can play any musical instrument other than a skin flute; and we already know it's the Dems who supply the musical insturment.


Now I have to do a web search for the Congresswoman from Wyoming. See if I can find a younger picture. :D

[lucy]

Trent Lott has been a compromised member of the Senate for a coon's age. He has always sold conservatives down the river, for whatever reason (I suspect some sort of blackmail, though)...

get rid of him already.

I would rather have an honest black democrat from Mississippi than a sheeped-shorn Republican.

[Flyrod]

Trent Lott has been a compromised member of the Senate for a coon's age. He has always sold conservatives down the river, for whatever reason (I suspect some sort of blackmail, though)...

get rid of him already.

I would rather have an honest black democrat from Mississippi than a sheeped-shorn Republican.

I agree with you lucy. Seems like Trent is screwing up all the time for many years! He has compromised so much in the past, it sure makes you wonder!!!