Re:Farrakhan's racial 'holy' war

[IM]

Jeremy,

When white people like you stop denying the FACT that this nation has always been divided by race, and that this government has always been complicit in this division, we'll go a long way towards uniting.

When white people like you understand the FACT that it has been whites who have been the major sponsors of this division because whites have been the majority of the lawmakers in the history of this nation, we'll take another step forward in unitingn ourselves.

What? Do you think that because YOU claim not to be a racist that racism doesn't exist? And since YOU claim that YOU are not a racist that the only racists in America today are black people who are mad at the same government that has fostered the division for more than 300 years?

A government cosists of the people and it can only operate by the consernt of those same people. From 1640 until 1964 it was fine for white people to have every advantage given by law. It was fine for white people to get every preference in the book. It was fine for white people to keep everyone divided by race and living in those divisions for housing, schools and even where they could sit down to take a shit.

From 1964 until this moment the same people and those who think like them are using every argument in the bok to justify why things should go back to the way it was. They will write stuff down on paper, and will try twisitng stuidies to justify their agenda of racial division. And people like you suck it up and post up volumes of bullshit telling me that this is the answer to what I am talking about, when in fact it is nothing more than CA-CA.

Willaim Pierce in the Turner Diaries outlined a race war, and the day of the rope. This book was written well before Louis Farrakhan. And for more than 30 years white para-military groups, militias, and white nationalist armies have been training for this race war.

There have been sporadic uprisings by people like Randy Weaver, whose excuse was he was mad at the government. The Feemen, and the ROI were other groups trying to begin the race war, but because you shared their anti government views, you ignored their real agenda, and now want to say that Farrakhan and the idiot who will fry for shooting up those innocent people are trying to start a race war.

Finally, just to show you how wrong you are Jeremy, that Muhammad guy killed blacks and whites. If this was a NOI sponsoreed race war, whites would have been the only ones to die.

G'day! 8)

[IM]

Jeremy,

John Muhammad was a sicko bastard. But what would you expect? Do you think that after 362 years of enduring the kind of continuing bullshit blacks have had to put up with in this nation that perhaps one of us would go a little to far? He's going to get the death sentance and I am no proponent of the death sentance, so I cannot say that I agree with it, but I ain't going to argue about it either.

Muhammad sniped down what 13 and killed 10. McViegh killed how many? And how many others have been murded by white mass murders like Son of Sam, Gacy, or Bundy? How many blacks have been murded by lynch mobs in the past and to include Jasper Texas, the Matthew Hale murders, as well as the Army white supremacist who decapitated a black couple in Virginia.

But of course you would jump on this one, but when I was talking about McViegh and the long gloried history of terror done by whites in this nation, you called me a racist and many other names.

Now you know that I don't agree with the NOI, but since I have been places in the black political spectrum that you haven't, I know that the NOI just isn't really wired that way. The fruit of Islam has been around for many years, and if there was going to be a race war, Elijah Muhammad or Malcolm X had the influence to get it done. Farrakahn doesn't.

In fact there is another sect of the Nation of Islam, who claim that Farrakhan is not the leader, so in fact the NOI is split into two different factions. So no, they are not organized enough to do what you claim Muhammed was doing under the guidance of Minister Farrakhan.

What I am saying to you Jeremy is that the government has always fostered division among the races. And what I am saying to you is that it is the whites who are in control of every faction of the government who have created the racial divisiveness we continue to have.

You want to always blame it on somebody black, like Jesse Jackson, or Farrakhan, but the reality of it is that you had better start looking at dubya, Ass-croft, Ridge, Armey, Deee-Lay, Lott, Gingrich, Limbaugh, and others on the right side of the political spectrum. These are the trouble makers, and when you and others begin to figure this out, then perhaps we can begin to unify.

No you don't have the power to hurt me in any way. But you should not deny truth. But you will continue doing so because it is your nature to ignore all wrongs comitted by yours, while pointing fingers at all others.

It is this type of attitude which caused 9-11 and what is going to cause a day far worse than that.

[IM]

Jeremy,

It's probably best for you to put on the ignore button, because you don't seem to understand what I am saying.

You are blaming the federal government for trying to keep the races divided, yet the federal government is not the worst offender in this regards. If you are for states rights, then you are defending the greatest offender of all. It was under the guise of states rights that Jim Crow flourished as well as the slave trade. And the federal government turned a bliind eye to it, bascially until Martin Luther King Jr & Malcolm X. We are talking about from approximately 1640 until 1964, a span of324 years, jack!

That's a long time to be blind.

You post up some mess from a neo conservative newsrag which wants to play the what the poor old pitiful white man game with this and then create a scenario which is not related. John Muhammad probably never met Minister Louis Farrakhan. And the reality is that he could be part of the United Nation of Islam or the Lost Found Nation of Islam, the guy at the National Post doesn't know which sect of the NOI he was in, neither do we. But just because he was converted into the NOI, he now becomes associated with Al Queda. But, what you and the guy who wrote this story refuses to accept is that this guy is one in a long line of home grown terrorists who have killed way more than 3,000 people here and abroad.

After all, he did serve in our military.

Again, Tim McViegh killed how many?

Gacy killed how many?

Bundy killed how many?

The KKK has killed how man?

The Aryan Nation has Killed how many?

The law which made leased convict labor legal in this country killed how many?

Our system of Jurisprudence has killed how many innocent blacks because of the color of their skin and who were not able to get a fair, nor a speedy trial by a jury of their peers?

How many white murderers have been let off scott free in southern courts during this nations history?

And then how many of these men continued committing acts of terror?

How many lawyers & judges are still wearing KKK robes today?

The answer is more than John Muhammad.

All of these questions you will probably not answer. What I expect you to do is continue filling up space with National Post articles written by white men who are still carrying on with the old poor me the downtrodden white man arguement.

Oh, if it had been a white man the media would have crucified him. Yada Yada Yada. You see jeremy, I am not lying about you. You simply refuse to accept the FACT that for over 300 years, blacks had got the crucifix from the media, from scientists, and from the law.

But Mark Steyn just can't be creating division among the races now can he Jeremy. Only when blacks talk about white people can there be attempted racial division, to you Mark Steyn is telling the gospel truth.

When you understand the law of karma, you will understand why things are going as they are for white men today.

[IM]

I shall my friend, lunch hours over for me.

[IM]

Pure and utter bull...! States rights ensures safety from a tyrannical central government.


Not true. Simply because the federal law supercedes any and all laws states enact. All state laws must be structured to fit U.S. Constitutional guidelines. The constitution actually limits states rights, and created a centralized government structure. Washington D.C. is th central commmand of our government, with 50 state capitals.

You post up some mess from a neo conservative newsrag which wants to play the what the poor old pitiful white man game with this and then create a scenario which is not related.


It's a sentance, and the fact of what you posted up from newsmax.com substantiates the constat right wing whining. Oh if it had ben a white anglo saxon christian male the entire nation would have been up in arms. That's the" old poor pitiful me, I am the downtrodden white male, who is the most discriminated person in America today," crybaby stance.

This is wrong as we already know that Muhammad served as personal security for Farrakhan and was also a minister.


I doubt that. Again the information you are putting out could be wrong. The NOI is not so organized as to have the ability to make anyone start the so-called race war. There are at least 2 NOI sects, both are competing for leadership. Since this is the case, there is enough in-fighting to keep each sect from organizing enough to prepar for such a thing.

But in the minds of those who really want to see a race war started by someone black so that they can justify killing or jailing as many blacks or colored minorities as possible so that the land can return to it's so-called heritage, Muhammad just had to be Minister Farrakhan's right hand man.

Again since I have been deep into the black political structure and you have not, please try not to make acfcusations that are not true, then try telling me that of course this is the way it is. I know how it is relative to black politics, and I know that John Williams was never one of Minister Farrakhan's close associates.

As for the rest of what you posted........


While you say that the government is responsible for promoting this racial division, I am saying that it is white people not only in government, but in business, education and law who are racists, and want to continue their system of white racial preference and priviledge. To claim that blacks like Jackson, or Farrakhan ar,e is to fall right into what these people want you to believe.

Mark Steyn is one of these people obviously.

The law of Karma is biblical Jeremy, if you believe in the bible, then you understand the law of Karma. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. Love your neighbor as you would love yourself. Etc., Etc. So when I say that the law of Karma has caught up to the white man in America, think about the things the white man has done, and continues to do.

[lgllady]

What utter nonsense. Karma has caught up with the white man..... Indeed. So you believe that any form of violence
visited on a white person is fulfilling karma. That's what all the sickos who see themselves as the hand of God say.

[Meshuga Mikey]

What utter nonsense. Karma has caught up with the white man..... Indeed. So you believe that any form of violence
visited on a white person is fulfilling karma. That's what all the sickos who see themselves as the hand of God say.




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'S a BLACK THING~!!!!! a BLACK HEART~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps the Party to whom you attempting to Talk Sense,.. is suffering from that horrid Post Slavery Stress Syndrome thats making the rounds these days~!!!

[lgllady]

Over and over I see black men in court trying to use the defense of "I killed because white people have been
killing for over 200 years". They never get away with it. It's the lamest excuse there possibly can be. I don't
care HOW many people Tim McVeigh killed, it will never be an excuse to do so much as step on someone's toe.