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CaptainKirk
09-02-2003, 10:30 PM
Any ides on how to rehab.....?

Iced it down...ultrasonic/heat massage, eucalyptus oil, elevation..etc.....

seemingly quite slow to heal after 1 week of this treatment.

but at least i can walk and it isnt torn...

any ideas?

any physical therapoists out there?

jeny
09-03-2003, 08:03 AM
Are you sure it's not torn? I would see a doctor, the achilles is one injury i would NOT screw around with.

Ice, elevation, heat, massage and streches, don't forget the streches, but be gentle. If it's still swollen, take an anti-inflmatory. When you massage, massage in one direction to move the blood out of the muscle.

Compression as well, a firm, but not to tight ace bandage will help.

But really, I would see a doctor, like I said, this could turn into a serious injury.

09-03-2003, 10:36 AM
Take the pain, pussy.

See? This is EACTLY what is wrong with America. ::)

"It don't hurt unless the bone's showing." ~badnews~

09-03-2003, 10:37 AM
p.s. I would have posted more, but I have this inflamed cuticle.

CaptainKirk
09-03-2003, 01:32 PM
But really, I would see a doctor, like I said, this could turn into a serious injury.

jen,

thanks ..I dont think its torn as Id not be able to walk and Id be unable to raise or lower my foot..which I can....

I just hate to see an orthopedic spec for $500. and have him tell me Its pulled, go home. elevate, compression, hot water bucket, Ibupropen......

all of which Ive been doing.

jeny
09-03-2003, 01:37 PM
jen,

thanks ..I dont think its torn as Id not be able to walk and Id be unable to raise or lower my foot..which I can....

I just hate to see an orthopedic spec for $500. and have him tell me Its pulled, go home. elevate, compression, hot water bucket, Ibupropen......

all of which Ive been doing.


Well, continue your treatments religiously, but if your tendon does not get better, markedly better, by next week, then see your Doctor.

Don't forget the ice. ;D And the ice BATHS are better than ice packs.

CaptainKirk
09-04-2003, 05:54 AM
Don't forget the ice. ;D And the ice BATHS are better than ice packs.

ice baths...hmmm OK are they like golden showers..?

oh xcuse me, well have to refer that question to badnews...hes hip on all that kinky stuff.

TANKS!

jeny
09-04-2003, 08:48 AM
ice baths...hmmm OK are they like golden showers..?

oh xcuse me, well have to refer that question to badnews...hes hip on all that kinky stuff.

TANKS!


Oh for crying out loud, an ice BATH for your achillies would be a bucket if ice water in which you stick your whole lower leg. If you can take it, wimp. ;D

Tiger
09-04-2003, 09:15 AM
What a pussy! ;D


Get a wheelchair grandpa. ;D

09-04-2003, 09:26 AM
Hmmm...no sympathy posts.

Move along folks. Nothing to see here.

<kicks Kirk on way out>

guido
09-04-2003, 04:33 PM
p.s. I would have posted more, but I have this inflamed cuticle.
;D ;D

truelies
09-04-2003, 04:38 PM
Pain is a good thing in some cases. Kind of a Karma comearound sort of thing for those who need a reality check.

CaptainKirk
09-04-2003, 10:19 PM
Pain is a good thing in some cases. Kind of a Karma comearound sort of thing for those who need a reality check.


Oh??? care to expound

CaptainKirk
09-04-2003, 10:26 PM
What a pussy! ;D


If I am its situational, the result of an injury... :D

If you had been suitably equipped with one at birth, you might have passed for a female....

an accident of genetics......(sigh)



Get a wheelchair grandpa. ;D

Ill need one someday after I " pad up" to receive a near miss from a wannabe athlete like you....

Dont scrimp on the Massengil........

I hear those Kansas horseflies can swarm and lift a VW.....

Tiger
09-05-2003, 06:47 AM
If I am its situational, the result of an injury... :D

If you had been suitably equipped with one at birth, you might have passed for a female....

an accident of genetics......(sigh)Ill need one someday after I " pad up" to receive a near miss from a wannabe athlete like you....

Dont scrimp on the Massengil........

I hear those Kansas horseflies can swarm and lift a VW.....







The horseflies are truly bad this year - but not as big here as they are in Texas, of course.

But as far as the Massengil goes - you might want to save it for yourself - seeing as you are one big pussy. ;D ;D

Are you going through some form of male menopause CaptainCrunch?

Or is your wife just bopping the local grocer and and your self-esteem is at an all-time low? ;)

Whatever the case - go cry in your milk - you're not getting any sympathy here for your whining. ;D

CaptainKirk
09-05-2003, 07:03 AM
Whatever the case - go cry in your milk - you're not getting any sympathy here for your whining. ;D

Tygger,

My intent was not to whine but to seek some treatment advice from some real or former athletes , like Jeny( notice this list however extensive would not include you), who might shed some practical light on treatment options, which she did...


This injury occurred in the second inning of a game. I played the remainder of the game on it, risking an Achilles tear, an operation and perhaps a years rehab......

recall that aspect next time you pad up and hope that one of the guys is solicitous in not knocking your lights out as you attempt to punch your way out of an imaginary bag.....

its the way youve survived up to this point in the reflected glow of hubbys accomplishments....

I own an athlete's track record over 4 decades in several sports in open and masters competition ......

I was competing and in Div One college sports when you were still wearin your pants three cornered dearie.......

now go bake some pies, ya might win a local 4H award ;D

Tiger
09-05-2003, 07:34 AM
Tygger,

My intent was not to whine but to seek some treatment advice from some real or former athletes , like Jeny( notice this list however extensive would not include you), who might shed some practical light on treatment options, which she did...

Your problem Crunch (IMHO) is that you like to sling shit but you don't like getting it back. However Jen is right and I don't give a rat's ass what you think I am or am NOT. My best advice comes from coaching gymnastics - not competing in it. Follow the RICE theory of Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation and then try DMSO. Dont stretch the tendon until it heals and then gradually stretch it out (over a period of weeks) to give it a little flexibility so you don't tear it again.

After 48 hours try alternating heat with cool. The problem is that as you get older your tendons and muscles do not retain the elasticity and felxibility. I have had some success with HGH injections - but did not continue them as they are expensive and need to be gotten from overseas or Mexico. HGH taken orally is not effective - at least from the studies I read. IT has to be subcutaenous. If you have the bucks and dont mind giving yourself shots - go for it. My muscles, tendons and joints felt much better for the month I took it.

And if you really want to work on healing the tendon - try Castor Oil packs. Sounds hokey - but works wonders. About an hour every other night or so. Current research into why it works has centered on vibrational medicine. The theory is that by heating up the oil - it vibrates at the frequency that healthy tissues and organs vibrate. I can't vouch for that - but have used it with excellent results.


This injury occurred in the second inning of a game. I played the remainder of the game on it, risking an Achilles tear, an operation and perhaps a years rehab......

recall that aspect next time you pad up and hope that one of the guys is solicitous in not knocking your lights out as you attempt to punch your way out of an imaginary bag.....

I somehow doubt that I will be thinking of your leg if someone is about to punch my lights out.

its the way youve survived up to this point in the reflected glow of hubbys accomplishments....

I survive with or without his accomplishments. I am proud of him - but I have my own life and my own accomplishments to be proud of. And he is proud of me too. That thought might strike you as absurd - but that is NOT my problem. My confidence and esteem does not hinge on your approval.

I own an athlete's track record over 4 decades in several sports in open and masters competition ......

I was competing and in Div One college sports when you were still wearin your pants three cornered dearie.......


So - Im no slouch myself. You just seem to think women have to be weaklings.

now go bake some pies, ya might win a local 4H award ;D


Im not THAT young! But I DO think I might bake a pie since you brought it up - an apple pie with a cinnamon crumble topping.

CaptainKirk
09-05-2003, 08:03 AM
First, I appreciate youre treatment options. Ived used DMSO in the past . The Castor Oil sounds as if it has some theoretical substance.

Your problem Crunch (IMHO) is that you like to sling shit but you don't like getting it back.


Nope, if someone wants to indicate a logical fallacy of mine I may have overlooked....I listen correct and incorporate. I dont deliberately go for the jugular unless someone begs for it....we all tease.



That thought might strike you as absurd - but that is NOT my problem.


Why would a husbands pride in his wife inspire that thought. Im proud of mine, shes a major player in her field.



My confidence and esteem does not hinge on your approval.


Why would it? I never indicated it had to...dont put thoughts in my head or I may suffer a change of heart.



Im no slouch myself. You just seem to think women have to be weaklings.


Again dont misrepresent...your continued faux pax on this BB. I admire strong women, achievers, those who take chances, say the hell with stereotypes or the males in the way, and head for the top of the class........

unless, or course, you believe that deception, manipulation, control and coercion are the sole vehicles for not appearing weak.........

Ive not disagreed with any facts youve posted as Im not qualified in martial arts.....Ive disagreed with your misrepresentation and backpedaling........

You probably have lots of substance to offer if youd grasp that difference

but you dont

Tiger
09-05-2003, 08:35 AM
Okay, CK - I admit I get hot-headed and spout off at times. And yes - it probably is a weakness - but I have found a lot of resistance especially in my community (Bible Belt) to women who try to do anything outside of the kitchen or bedroom.

Granted I could debate better if I did NOT lose my cool. I find it easier to come out swinging and lighten up later.

And I know you do not agree that that it is a case of Chauvinism - but I see it as such. I recognise the differences between men and women - but I do not like being a shadow of a man.

I rarely jump anyone who does not jump me first. But I don't sit back and take their shit either. You would not respect a man who did that - would you?



However the castor oil packs are very intersting. You need flannel (wool, if you can get it) but regular white cotton will do in a pinch. Buy cold-pressed Castor oil. Available in health stores. Fold the flannel to about 4 or 6 layers of thickness. Saturate it with the oil - place on your owie and cover with plastic wrap - then apply heat - as hot as you can stand it for an hour. I have used it with success on tendonitis - pulled muscles - and even a blood clot in the leg. Hokey as it sounds - it works.

BTW - your bark is a lot worse than your bite - too. ;)

CaptainKirk
09-05-2003, 11:04 AM
Okay, CK - I admit I get hot-headed and spout off at times. And yes - it probably is a weakness


Tiger, you still dont get it... I admire the fire with which you present your ideas and your articulation......but you say things then deny youve said them ...thats the essence of my position with ya.....say something then defend or retract it..simple. I have no prob with your aggressiveness but godddamn it own up to what you said...thats all I or arod or anyone else here has to bitch about with you...

but I have found a lot of resistance especially in my community (Bible Belt) to women who try to do anything outside of the kitchen or bedroom.


Im with ya 100% on Christian condescending ,usually shit for brains with minimalist educational credentials, who want to shove their crap down our throats in order to feel validated. Wen will tell you that back on NM, Id bash fundies and socialists as two flips of the same coin.. They really do have lots in common.....

disregard your local assholes, but I gather youve already done that. You have girls to raise and have to have some modicum of interation with the community, for their health, but beyond that, who gives a shit about em?

I sure as shit dont here although the millieu is vastly different



Granted I could debate better if I did NOT lose my cool.


its not your cool....present ideas, remember exactly what you said, then defend it.........dont misrepresent others ideas or have them misrepresent you........simple.


And I know you do not agree that that it is a case of Chauvinism -



you're prob at least 40, as that term was fashionable in the early 70s then was replaced by some other conundrum.


I rarely jump anyone who does not jump me first. But I don't sit back and take their shit either. You would not respect a man who did that - would you?

absolutely not,

I have observed you insult others just for yuks....

I didnt jump you, nor did others, other than Observer, concerning content, only backpedaling....

no more, no less


However the castor oil packs are very intersting. You need flannel (wool, if you can get it) but regular white cotton will do in a pinch. Buy cold-pressed Castor oil. Available in health stores. Fold the flannel to about 4 or 6 layers of thickness. Saturate it with the oil - place on your owie and cover with plastic wrap - then apply heat - as hot as you can stand it for an hour. I have used it with success on tendonitis - pulled muscles - and even a blood clot in the leg. Hokey as it sounds - it works.


Im enroute to the store....thank you.. Its not torn or Id ve been operated on already and in a cast.. Its pulled or inflamed. Ive already missed 3 tournament games in which Id've made a difference and the fall season starts in 2 weeks......so Ive gotta get with the rehab pgm. Im sure the packs will assist

BTW - your bark is a lot worse than your bite - too. ;)



Im not here to deliberately disgrace someone verbally...unless their character begs for it. I dislike hypocrites, socialists, leftists, fundies and know it alls... Most of the time Im reasonable, but Wendy will tell you, based on here and NM, at at several other BBs that Ive literaly sshut down that once things escalate.....

I can be the dirtiest player in the game and at that point i discard ethics , norms and any decency whatsoever....

guido
09-05-2003, 04:35 PM
I can be the dirtiest player in the game and at that point i discard ethics , norms and any decency whatsoever....


Can we consider this fair warning? ;)

CaptainKirk
09-05-2003, 08:45 PM
Can we consider this fair warning? ;)


I am fair...with everyone ...... and equal opportunity fairness advocate ;D

Tiger
09-06-2003, 05:58 AM
I am fair...with everyone ...... and equal opportunity fairness advocate ;D




I see myself as that way too. Others may not agree.

I don't think you are a bad guy by any means - but I have thought of you as not being fair in different situations. I suppose that may just be my take on it.

I can be just as nasty and cruel as the best (or worst?) of them - but I usually save that for those I really don't respect.

On the other hand - it rarely bothers me personally when someone jumps me. Unless I know and like the person - then it does. But on a board like this - why would anyone care? Some folks are just way too sensitive. I have to wonder if they are like that in real life?

I don't remember you from NM - but then again - I just post on topics I like and dont pay much attention to ones I dont. IF we crossed paths - I have forgotten it.

Let us know the status of the leg. Probably better although not happier, if you miss some of the games. The problem with tearing those darned tendons or muscles of any kind is that when they heal - the scar tissue does not stretch like the healthy tissue. Kinda shitty if you ask me. They say that by the 30's one has lost 1/3 of the range of motion in the hips. The theory is that the ligaments and muscles then shrink to only accomodate that lessened range. So unless one stretches (especially the hips) one's muscles, etc., will naturally shorten and then an activity that they could once perform (long running strides, jumps) will strain the muscle that is now shorter whereas it did not when one was younger.

True or not - who knows? But if you ever start HGH therapy (the subcutaneous kind) you may see a big difference.

Not to get off topic - but that is why I can not see killing death row inmates when they could be put to such good use allowing these kind of treatments and procedures to be tested on them. We have to buy outside the country if we want the hormones because the testing has not been completed here. By now I wonder how many treatments and drugs we could have benefitting us - if only there had been humans to test them on.

CaptainKirk
09-06-2003, 11:04 PM
I see myself as that way too. Others may not agree.


its all, perception...wed need OAG to expound exponentially on more of what hes already expounded on...shall we?

I don't think you are a bad guy by any means - but I have thought of you as not being fair in different situations. I suppose that may just be my take on it.


other than teasing badnews ad nauseum I do try...please cite where IYO I havent... ;)



On the other hand - it rarely bothers me personally when someone jumps me. Unless I know and like the person - then it does. But on a board like this - why would anyone care? Some folks are just way too sensitive. I have to wonder if they are like that in real life?


Everyone has that sensitivity index, usually from shit thats happened earlier in their lives....infinitely variable from ying to yang....Im no diff here than IRL ,no reason to fabricate or put on airs ...for what? to impress people you'll prob never see..makes no sense to me wacha see is wacha get... 8)


Let us know the status of the leg. Probably better although not happier, if you miss some of the games. The problem with tearing those darned tendons or muscles of any kind is that when they heal - the scar tissue does not stretch like the healthy tissue. Kinda shitty if you ask me. They say that by the 30's one has lost 1/3 of the range of motion in the hips. The theory is that the ligaments and muscles then shrink to only accomodate that lessened range. So unless one stretches (especially the hips) one's muscles, etc., will naturally shorten and then an activity that they could once perform (long running strides, jumps) will strain the muscle that is now shorter whereas it did not when one was younger.


Bought the Castor oil n flannel for the pac yesterday. Did a 1 hr heating session with heat pad on med......wrapped the area in a spandex velco wrap today and walked around, edema has finally shrinked after 12 days....will wear the wrap to bed, then remove for a peroid tomorrow....walking OK.....have begun to move my foot up n down 50 times at intervals......

hope to be ready to play in 10 days...If Id been in the lineup wed have won a tournament game n advanced.

looks like lotsa calf raises and leg curls in the offseason are in my future....purchsaed anke wrap w straps and knee wrap w straps.... wore 2 ankle wraps last season, didnt this one..and look what happens...after only 30 games.




True or not - who knows? But if you ever sta(the subcutaneous kind) you may see a big difference. rt HGH therapy


Im curious but wifey, ever the academic, ever the pharmacist would object strenuously and Im not theoretically grounded enough to debate her.

Not to get off topic - but that is why I can not see killing death row inmates when they could be put to such good use allowing these kind of treatments and procedures to be tested on them. We have to buy outside the country if we want the hormones because the testing has not been completed here. By now I wonder how many treatments and drugs we could have benefitting us - if only there had been humans to test them on.




Exactly, but the left and the PC crowd would blow their stacks, its bad enough for us to test chimps...


Thank you for your assistance. an IM is in your future ;D

Thunder Bay
09-07-2003, 02:28 PM
Cap'n Kirk; ::)

On topic, try some Super Blue Stuff; nothin' works better for me; the secret is in the emu oil; ask any aborigine. :)

Off topic, I can't believe your arm isn't sore from pattin' yourself on the back and blowin' your own horn. You sound like the baddest thing to hit a keyboard on the planet; 'scuse me while I wipe the tears of laughter outta my eyes. ;D

So Wendy can vouch for your verbal virility, eh? Whoop-de-fuckin'-doo; I ain't impressed. An empty wagon rattles the loudest, ya know, Doc. ::) ;D

wellkeptsecrets
09-07-2003, 08:00 PM
Cap'n Kirk; ::)


Off topic, I can't believe your arm isn't sore from pattin' yourself on the back and blowin' your own horn. You sound like the baddest thing to hit a keyboard on the planet; 'scuse me while I wipe the tears of laughter outta my eyes. ;D

So Wendy can vouch for your verbal virility, eh? Whoop-de-fuckin'-doo; I ain't impressed. An empty wagon rattles the loudest, ya know, Doc. ::) ;D


Thunderluv, so nice to see you pulling no punches with Kirkmeister. Had I been consuming a root beer it would have definetly been splattered on my monitor and running down my chin. ;D What's new?

CaptainKirk
09-07-2003, 10:26 PM
On topic, try some Super Blue Stuff; nothin' works better for me; the secret is in the emu oil; ask any aborigine. :)



thanks TB....I use it on joints...

Off topic, I can't believe your arm isn't sore from pattin' yourself on the back and blowin' your own horn. You sound like the baddest thing to hit a keyboard on the planet; 'scuse me while I wipe the tears of laughter outta my eyes. ;D


you must have misunderstood, I never said that.........

you laugh, I yawn...what else is new? If I could understand what you're sayin or its content, I could asses the true depths of your humility ;D that is your forte?




So Wendy can vouch for your verbal virility, eh?


nope, only my intent

Whoop-de-fuckin'-doo; I ain't impressed. An empty wagon rattles the loudest, ya know, Doc. ::) ;D


not familiar with any homespun homilies......

whats your wagon full of? :D

the world wonders?

and whos Doc?......are you in need of medical attention?


911

09-07-2003, 10:30 PM
Holy shit!!! Still no pity on this thread? I coulda lost my fuckin' leg by amputation and been up and about by now. ::)

CaptainKirk
09-07-2003, 10:34 PM
Holy shit!!! Still no pity on this thread? I coulda lost my fuckin' leg by amputation and been up and about by now. ::)


has any ex wife ever amputated any of your limbs?

09-07-2003, 10:37 PM
has any ex wife ever amputated any of your limbs?


I thought the last one cut off my dick since I didn't get any "tang" for the last 12 years of the marriage.

No big loss in hindsight.

CaptainKirk
09-07-2003, 10:59 PM
I thought the last one cut off my dick since I didn't get any "tang" for the last 12 years of the marriage.



I sympathize, really News >:(, so why did you hang on when the path became apparent???

Thunder Bay
09-10-2003, 02:12 PM
Tiger, you still dont get it... I admire the fire with which you present your ideas and your articulation......but you say things then deny youve said them ...thats the essence of my position with ya.....say something then defend or retract it..simple. I have no prob with your aggressiveness but godddamn it own up to what you said...thats all I or arod or anyone else here has to bitch about with you...




Im with ya 100% on Christian condescending ,usually shit for brains with minimalist educational credentials, who want to shove their crap down our throats in order to feel validated. Wen will tell you that back on NM, Id bash fundies and socialists as two flips of the same coin.. They really do have lots in common.....

disregard your local assholes, but I gather youve already done that. You have girls to raise and have to have some modicum of interation with the community, for their health, but beyond that, who gives a shit about em?

I sure as shit dont here although the millieu is vastly different


its not your cool....present ideas, remember exactly what you said, then defend it.........dont misrepresent others ideas or have them misrepresent you........simple.



you're prob at least 40, as that term was fashionable in the early 70s then was replaced by some other conundrum.absolutely not,

I have observed you insult others just for yuks....

I didnt jump you, nor did others, other than Observer, concerning content, only backpedaling....

no more, no lessIm enroute to the store....thank you.. Its not torn or Id ve been operated on already and in a cast.. Its pulled or inflamed. Ive already missed 3 tournament games in which Id've made a difference and the fall season starts in 2 weeks......so Ive gotta get with the rehab pgm. Im sure the packs will assistIm not here to deliberately disgrace someone verbally...unless their character begs for it. I dislike hypocrites, socialists, leftists, fundies and know it alls... Most of the time Im reasonable, but Wendy will tell you, based on here and NM, at at several other BBs that Ive literaly sshut down that once things escalate.....

I can be the dirtiest player in the game and at that point i discard ethics , norms and any decency whatsoever....



This post should jog your failing memory, Cap'n; it's plain enough to me and the other folks that can read. Paragraph 1 has YOU telling someone to own up to what THEY said.

The next-to-last paragraph has you shutting down boards with your ferocity of attack; pointless, since it only took some cowardly e-mails to shut down the mighty NM.

Your last paragraph had me crackin' up, dirtiest playa; ewww, me be shakin' all over......laughin', dude.

The reference to Doc alludes to you tellin' me you used to post as Doc Holiday sometimes; you know, the suicidal dentist/gunslinger that got killed?

Hopefully, seein' this in black and white will refresh your memory and your apparent obfuscation attempts, 'who, me?', and 'Watchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?' will cease to be a tactic, eh? ::) ;D

BTW, how's the tendon? ;D

Thunder Bay
09-10-2003, 02:17 PM
Thunderluv, so nice to see you pulling no punches with Kirkmeister. Had I been consuming a root beer it would have definetly been splattered on my monitor and running down my chin. ;D What's new?



Hey, Secrets,

Workin' too much; how you doin'? 8) ;D

wellkeptsecrets
09-12-2003, 09:42 PM
Hey, Secrets,

Workin' too much; how you doin'? 8) ;D


I"m doing well. Observing and absorbing as I roam the halls here. Sorry to hear you are working too much... but in due time rest will come. 8) :-*

CaptainKirk
09-12-2003, 10:48 PM
author=Thunder Bay

The next-to-last paragraph has you shutting down boards with your ferocity of attack; pointless, since it only took some cowardly e-mails to shut down the mighty NM


You really need to comprehend better Ace. I arrive, on a BB mulitple usernames, one in each of their indentifiable poltical segements, progressive socialist, lib, mod, few conserves..adopt multiple usernames one for each seg, debate myself, get em to debate each other and lose focus on the conservs...disappear for few days and begin it again, only to find it closed for administrative reorganization.....one leftist forum histoi...now ya need a membership fee.....

youll join wouldncha, eh? :D never read Sun Tzu didja?



The reference to Doc alludes to you tellin' me you used to post as Doc Holiday sometimes; you know, the suicidal dentist/gunslinger that got killed?


check your facts, he wasnt killed....

they conceal these things in books, if you're inclined to eschew ESPN for an hour or 2. :D



Hopefully, seein' this in black and white will refresh your memory and your apparent obfuscation attempts,

Obfuscate? why would anyone obfuscate with you ?
Do you have a particular talent that would necessitate it, eh? ;)

Thunder Bay
09-13-2003, 10:28 AM
author=Thunder Bay You really need to comprehend better Ace. I arrive, on a BB mulitple usernames, one in each of their indentifiable poltical segements, progressive socialist, lib, mod, few conserves..adopt multiple usernames one for each seg, debate myself, get em to debate each other and lose focus on the conservs...disappear for few days and begin it again, only to find it closed for administrative reorganization.....one leftist forum histoi...now ya need a membership fee.....

youll join wouldncha, eh? :D never read Sun Tzu didja?check your facts, he wasnt killed....

they conceal these things in books, if you're inclined to eschew ESPN for an hour or 2. :D

Obfuscate? why would anyone obfuscate with you ?
Do you have a particular talent that would necessitate it, eh? ;)



I wouldn't know about multiple usernames; I just use mine. ;)

Are you tellin' me Doc's alive? ::) ;D

CaptainKirk
09-14-2003, 07:04 PM
I wouldn't know about multiple usernames; I just use mine. ;)

Whatever...the BB I mentioned was just a leftist sewer with lots of Anti American, anti-corporate , internationalist, globalist bilge......no great loss..


Are you tellin' me Doc's alive? ::) ;D


Negative...you said he was killed... He died of TB.

big difference. ;)

Thunder Bay
09-15-2003, 04:09 PM
Whatever...the BB I mentioned was just a leftist sewer with lots of Anti American, anti-corporate , internationalist, globalist bilge......no great loss..Negative...you said he was killed... He died of TB.

big difference. ;)




::) He WAS killed, Cap'n; however, not by this TB. ;) ;D

guido
09-15-2003, 04:18 PM
::) He WAS killed, Cap'n; however, not by this TB. ;) ;D


"Doc Holiday succumbed to tuberculosis and died at the Hotel Glenwood. He is buried in Linwood Cemetery, although the exact location is not known. A marker, placed in the cemetery by the City of Glenwood Springs, serves as a memorial to one of Glenwood?s more infamous visitors."

http://www.glenwoodguide.com/museum/doc.html

Thunder Bay
09-15-2003, 04:29 PM
"Doc Holiday succumbed to tuberculosis and died at the Hotel Glenwood. He is buried in Linwood Cemetery, although the exact location is not known. A marker, placed in the cemetery by the City of Glenwood Springs, serves as a memorial to one of Glenwood?s more infamous visitors."

http://www.glenwoodguide.com/museum/doc.html




Yeah, I figured he was killed by somethin'; won't we all be? ;D

guido
09-15-2003, 04:32 PM
Yeah, I figured he was killed by somethin'; won't we all be? ;D


I don't want to be "killed" I want to succumb......it sounds much more voluntary ;D

CaptainKirk
09-15-2003, 06:03 PM
quote author=guido



"Doc Holiday succumbed to tuberculosis and died at the Hotel Glenwood. He is buried in Linwood Cemetery, although the exact location is not known. A marker, placed in the cemetery by the City of Glenwood Springs, serves as a memorial to one of Glenwood?s more infamous visitors."

http://www.glenwoodguide.com/museum/doc.html


Thanks for the link Guido...Johnny on the spot.....

Interestin dude, the Dr. connections to GA and PA, before venturing west.....Had TB for most of his short adult life..37 when he died, I think....frequently ill n sickly

still managed to gun down 11 or 12 men , according to some sources.