If Henry Ford Was Right - Pat Robertson is Wrong.

I am not going to argue prophecy since I don't believe it but I think it is interesting that almost a centruy ago Henry Ford saw the same thing happening to lure evangelical Christians as some do today.

Here is an excerpt from a chapter in his book that deals with the attempt to "force" Armaegedden, by forcing the return to the Holy Land by the Jewish people. It could have been written today, especially after the comment Jerry Falwell made about it.

Zionism is the best advertised of all present Jewish activities and has exerted a greater influence upon world events than the average man realizes. In its more romantic aspects it makes an appeal to Christian as well as to Jew, because there are certain prophecies which are held to concern the return of the Jews to Jerusalem. When this return takes place, certain great events are scheduled to ensue.

Because of this admixture of the religious sentiment, it will be rather difficult for a certain class of people to scrutinize modern Political Zionism; they have been too well propagandized into believing that political Zionism and the "return" promised by the prophets are the same thing. Having succumbed to the initial confusion of mistaking Judah for Israel they have entirely mistaken the ancient writings that relate to these two and have made the single tribe of Judah (whence comes the name Jew) the hub around which all history and humanity swing. Judah was the tribe with which Israel could not live in peace over two thousand years ago, and which has the fateful gift of stirring up the same kind of dissension today. And yet no one ever thought of charging the Ten Tribes of Israel with "anti-Semitism."

Zionism is challenging the attention of the world today because it is creating a situation out of which many believe the next war will come. To adopt a phraseology familiar to students of prophecy, it is believed by many students of world affairs that Armageddon will be the direct result of what is now beginning to be manifested in Palestine.


Here is the rest of the chapter if you are interested:

http://www.noontidepress.com/books/ford/ij51.html

Henry Ford knew how to mass-produce automobiles, that was his genius. His take on Jews is nothing but simple-minded anti-Semitism. When he talked about making cars I listened, when he talked about Jews I rolled my eyes.

[Ed Edwards]

Actually both Henry Ford and Pat Robertson can
be wrong 8)

Henry Ford knew how to mass-produce automobiles, that was his genius. His take on Jews is nothing but simple-minded anti-Semitism. When he talked about making cars I listened, when he talked about Jews I rolled my eyes.


You were alive then???????? :o

Actually both Henry Ford and Pat Robertson can
be wrong 8)


Of course. I should have added I don't pay attention to either one.

Actually both Henry Ford and Pat Robertson can
be wrong 8)


Well, I think they both were too, but probably for different reasons than you do.

How do you explain that they were both wrong?

[Slipped Mickey]

I'd rather buy a used car from Henry than from Pat. So while I don't fancy prophecy I'd believe Henry before I'd believe "Diamond Mine".

Henry Ford knew how to mass-produce automobiles, that was his genius. His take on Jews is nothing but simple-minded anti-Semitism. When he talked about making cars I listened, when he talked about Jews I rolled my eyes.


You were alive then???????? :o


No I wasn't but if you can quote a dead man then I can make a comment on him. When I say 'I listen' I mean what has been written about him and his life.

Actually, I think that Henry was right and wrong.

He was right in the fact that Zionism has harnessed evangelical christianity into buying into a political - religious scenario - thus allowing much money to be collected and lots of support for the political cause garnishe.

He was wrong (IMHO) because he placed his belief on even MORE religious dogma. That Israel was Judah.

So he joined the ranks of the Christians, who like Hitler, saw evil in the Jewish folk everywhere. But he also made some good points. Like the 'persecution' facade that even back then the Jewish heirarchy were using as a tactic to elicit support for their cause.

He did not think them bright (as a people) I do. What a lot of Christians fail to consider is that Jewish thought seeks to ban Christianity altogether. So many Christians are actually allowing their own money to go to support what wants to obliterate them (not like genocide or anything - as a faith). Jewish movements have been behind removing christmas and EAster from schools for years and have been the backbone of the ACLU.

I actually agree with much of what the Jewish people have tried to do - but for MUCH different reasons.

We are moving into a very exciting time in our world and it will be interesting to see the outcome of these dynamics that are just now begining to surface. Dontcha think?

I'd rather buy a used car from Henry than from Pat. So while I don't fancy prophecy I'd believe Henry before I'd believe "Diamond Mine".


I tend to lean that direction myself.

Henry Ford knew how to mass-produce automobiles, that was his genius. His take on Jews is nothing but simple-minded anti-Semitism. When he talked about making cars I listened, when he talked about Jews I rolled my eyes.


You were alive then???????? :o


No I wasn't but if you can quote a dead man then I can make a comment on him. When I say 'I listen' I mean what has been written about him and his life.


Thank God! I thought I might have to bring you a walker next time I come to Bremond. ;D

But seriously, have you read any of his books? A lot of what he said was 'right on'. If he could have seen past his religious bias - he might have been able to get further.

[Ed Edwards]

Ed said: "Actually both Henry Ford and Pat Robertson can
be wrong 8)"

CherryBomb said: "Well, I think they both were too,
but probably for different reasons than you do.
How do you explain that they were both wrong?"

Henry Ford was an industralist, not skilled
in prophecy.
Pat Robertson is a self-appointed "leader"
with an insignificant number of followers,
not skilled in prophecy.
So i will not follow the prophecy of either
Henry Ford or Pat Robertson.

The milage of others may vary :)

Henry Ford knew how to mass-produce automobiles, that was his genius. His take on Jews is nothing but simple-minded anti-Semitism. When he talked about making cars I listened, when he talked about Jews I rolled my eyes.


You were alive then???????? :o


No I wasn't but if you can quote a dead man then I can make a comment on him. When I say 'I listen' I mean what has been written about him and his life.


Thank God! I thought I might have to bring you a walker next time I come to Bremond. ;D

But seriously, have you read any of his books? A lot of what he said was 'right on'. If he could have seen past his religious bias - he might have been able to get further.



Just because he tinkered with a proto-car in his garage and built a mult-million dollar auto manufacturing plant and mass -produced automobiles so the average man could drive one does not make him a Jewish scholar, an expert on the bible or a philosopher of Zionism. They were his opinions and we all know about opinions.

The Jews, the bible, prophecy, Zionism and Fundamentalism are not making prophecy happen. The events, kingdoms, man, the gathering of the Jews or the Israelites and the world itself is in the hands of God Almighty.

[Ed Edwards]

Lonestar: "The events, kingdoms, man, the gathering of the Jews or the Israelites and the world itself is in the hands of God Almighty."

Amen, Brother Lonestar -- Preach it!
And they are in good hands!!!

[buzaw]

Cherry, Pat can't be wrong on EVERYTHING. Why don't you post whatever statement or statements he said that you refer to so as to fairly assess the credibility of whatever you're referring to. You at least gave HF the benefit of a direct quote from himself.

Zionist Orthodox Jews are rejectors of Christianity and some down right antagonistic to us. There is room to fault a lot of some of the corruption perpetrated by Jews in the past, but we Biblical fundies know that the prophecies of Jesus and the OT prophets have long predicted what we see in Israel today. We also know and believe the messianic prophecies of a world ruler to come some day on Mount Zion, the Temple Mount. Thus we support Israel and thus the inability of all the surrounding armies of the tiny nation armed by Russia to destroy her. Pat Robertson may not have it all correct, but in this, He is Biblical and he is right.

How about it, Ed? Can we agree on that?