View Full Version : A MUSLIME ChristMASS Stamp,..From UNCLE SAM~????
Meshuga Mikey
11-26-2002, 03:59 PM
http://www.afghanpeople.com/mainimages/eidstamp.gif
JUST SAY NO TO MORONIC APPEASEMENT OF THE MUSLIME WORLD over the HOLDAYS~!!
WHAT DOES THIS GOVERNMENT THINK WE WILL PUT WITH ,..ANYTHING
The stamp is an appropriate symbol of the values American Muslims represent
By Anayat Durrani
November 16, 2000, 04:05 PM
WASHINGTON - The US Postal Service has unveiled their 2001 commemorative stamp program, presented as “A New Century of Stamps” with an assortment of colorful, educational stamps that has “something for everyone.” The USPS revealed their 2001 collection Monday live on C-SPAN from the Smithsonian Institution's National Postal Museum, a first for the US Postal Service.
> :(http://www.afghanpeople.com/articles/eidstamps.html
wendy
11-26-2002, 06:23 PM
If you don't like it...don't buy it. The "government" did not pay to have that stamp printed. In case you didn't know, the USPS is not run by the government anymore (not that you could tell).
I guess you'll really be pissed when you find out they printed one THIS year as well.
Satan
11-26-2002, 06:25 PM
I didn't know it either. Who does run it?
wendy
11-26-2002, 06:30 PM
It's regulated by the board of governors...which are people chosen by congress. The post office only receives federal funds in limited situations...like last year for clean up of anthrax contaminated buildings and machines to "clean" the mail. They receive funds for free mailings..like the military postage free service and the free stuff for the blind and of course, the 'free" political mailings from your congressmen and senators. As for the first class stamps you buy, they are subsidized by the mass mailers. The postal service wouldn't survive without bulk rate mail. Do you really think they could send a letter from Atlanta to Alaska for 37cents? ;)
It is ONLY a Muslim stamp - NOT a TERROROST stamp.
Maybe it is an effort to help folks differentiate betwixt the two. There IS a difference, you know.
nightmareonelmst.
11-26-2002, 07:47 PM
Looks like it say Slay the Infidel.
Looks like it say Slay the Infidel.
LOL
Hi truelies, I'm glad you're here.
Meshuga Mikey
11-27-2002, 11:22 AM
It is ONLY a Muslim stamp - NOT a TERROROST stamp.
Maybe it is an effort to help folks differentiate betwixt the two. There IS a difference, you know.
IVE READ THE KORAN,..and must therefore inform one and ALL that those who are not aso called RADICAL ISLIMICS arent paying ATTENTION to the ORDERS IN the BOOK,..they are NOT FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS... the so called RADICALS have READ the Book and Are Acting upon the Principles and direct orders therein~!!!
THE STAMP IS IN EXTREMELY EXTREMELY POOR TASTE AT BEST~and AS THE CHRISTMAS TREE HAS NO CORROLARY ON THE ISLIMIC TRADITION ---so called it is ALSO a rather STUPID and CLUMSY CONCEPT to even HAVE MADE A MUSLIME CHRISTMAS STAMP~RE RAMADAN!!!!!
TO HELL WITH RAMADAN,....ISLIME,..and the CLOWNS BEHIND THE CONCEPTUALIZATION, AND DISTRIBUTION OF this Ill Thought Out MUSLIME STAMP~!!!
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NO APPEASEMENT NOW NOR EVER~!!!!
It is ONLY a Muslim stamp - NOT a TERROROST stamp.
Maybe it is an effort to help folks differentiate betwixt the two. There IS a difference, you know.
IVE READ THE KORAN,..and must therefore inform one and ALL that those who are not aso called RADICAL ISLIMICS arent paying ATTENTION to the ORDERS IN the BOOK,..they are NOT FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS... the so called RADICALS have READ the Book and Are Acting upon the Principles and direct orders therein~!!!
THE STAMP IS IN EXTREMELY EXTREMELY POOR TASTE AT BEST~and AS THE CHRISTMAS TREE HAS NO CORROLARY ON THE ISLIMIC TRADITION ---so called it is ALSO a rather STUPID and CLUMSY CONCEPT to even HAVE MADE A MUSLIME CHRISTMAS STAMP~RE RAMADAN!!!!!
TO HELL WITH RAMADAN,....ISLIME,..and the CLOWNS BEHIND THE CONCEPTUALIZATION, AND DISTRIBUTION OF this Ill Thought Out MUSLIME STAMP~!!!
http://people.delphiforums.com/artcruncher/Peacenik3.gif
NO APPEASEMENT NOW NOR EVER~!!!!
Have you read the Bible at all? Kill, Kill, Kill, the non-Hebrews, take their women as your own and rape them to get them pregnant. Oh yeah such a peaceful religion there.
wendy
11-27-2002, 03:11 PM
It is ONLY a Muslim stamp - NOT a TERROROST stamp.
Maybe it is an effort to help folks differentiate betwixt the two. There IS a difference, you know.
IVE READ THE KORAN,..and must therefore inform one and ALL that those who are not aso called RADICAL ISLIMICS arent paying ATTENTION to the ORDERS IN the BOOK,..they are NOT FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS... the so called RADICALS have READ the Book and Are Acting upon the Principles and direct orders therein~!!!
THE STAMP IS IN EXTREMELY EXTREMELY POOR TASTE AT BEST~and AS THE CHRISTMAS TREE HAS NO CORROLARY ON THE ISLIMIC TRADITION ---so called it is ALSO a rather STUPID and CLUMSY CONCEPT to even HAVE MADE A MUSLIME CHRISTMAS STAMP~RE RAMADAN!!!!!
TO HELL WITH RAMADAN,....ISLIME,..and the CLOWNS BEHIND THE CONCEPTUALIZATION, AND DISTRIBUTION OF this Ill Thought Out MUSLIME STAMP~!!!
http://people.delphiforums.com/artcruncher/Peacenik3.gif
NO APPEASEMENT NOW NOR EVER~!!!!
Oh for Christ's sake...the stamp is for Eid....which is the celebration of the crescent moon following the end of Ramadan.
Honey, I've read the Bible and the Qur'an. If you read the OT as a literal instruction book, you are going to run into the same problems you see in the Qur'an. It really can't be compared to the Bible. It's more of a history book. Muslims are supposed to submit to the will of God..not to the will of whateverthefuck Muhammed did 500 years ago.
The real problem with Islam and Christianity is, there is no earthly universal leader of either group (outside of the Catholic Church of course). There is no 'the buck stops here' type person who can define doctrine. Both groups are subject to the fundamentalist mindset and define scripture to fit their individual causes.
wendy
12-01-2002, 03:49 PM
I understand what you are saying, Thales..but I think he was refering to a human leader. ;)
Wouldn't it be nice just ONCE to hear a booming voice from the sky come down and tell people who abuse their faith to knock it off?
wendy
12-01-2002, 04:06 PM
But wendya, that's the point. You shouldn't put men on a pedastal because they will always fall.
Look at me. I'm like the worst Christian - ever. How would you like it if I were the chosen leader for all fundies?
Well, I don't accept that there IS a (living) chosen leader of any religion today.
A lot of people after September 11th demanded a statement from the Muslims in regard to terrorism. They wanted a denouncement...but what they got was a bunch of differing opinions. Just as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell do NOT represent all Christians, there is NO universal Muslim leader.
That is the point. People WANT a quick and simple answer but it doesn't exist.
Slipped Mickey
12-01-2002, 05:37 PM
But wendya, that's the point. You shouldn't put men on a pedastal because they will always fall.
Look at me. I'm like the worst Christian - ever. How would you like it if I were the chosen leader for all fundies?
Thales has a point. Look at him. I find myself agreeing with him.
Meshuga Mikey
12-02-2002, 03:47 PM
It is ONLY a Muslim stamp - NOT a TERROROST stamp.
Maybe it is an effort to help folks differentiate betwixt the two. There IS a difference, you know.
IVE READ THE KORAN,..and must therefore inform one and ALL that those who are not aso called RADICAL ISLIMICS arent paying ATTENTION to the ORDERS IN the BOOK,..they are NOT FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS... the so called RADICALS have READ the Book and Are Acting upon the Principles and direct orders therein~!!!
THE STAMP IS IN EXTREMELY EXTREMELY POOR TASTE AT BEST~and AS THE CHRISTMAS TREE HAS NO CORROLARY ON THE ISLIMIC TRADITION ---so called it is ALSO a rather STUPID and CLUMSY CONCEPT to even HAVE MADE A MUSLIME CHRISTMAS STAMP~RE RAMADAN!!!!!
TO HELL WITH RAMADAN,....ISLIME,..and the CLOWNS BEHIND THE CONCEPTUALIZATION, AND DISTRIBUTION OF this Ill Thought Out MUSLIME STAMP~!!!
http://people.delphiforums.com/artcruncher/Peacenik3.gif
NO APPEASEMENT NOW NOR EVER~!!!!
Oh for Christ's sake...the stamp is for Eid....which is the celebration of the crescent moon following the end of Ramadan.
Honey, I've read the Bible and the Qur'an. If you read the OT as a literal instruction book, you are going to run into the same problems you see in the Qur'an. It really can't be compared to the Bible. It's more of a history book. Muslims are supposed to submit to the will of God..not to the will of whateverthefuck Muhammed did 500 years ago.
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YThe "instrucations in the Bible" unlike those in the FILTHY Koran,.were to One people at one time.
The LATTER BOOKS of the BIBLE go ON to admonish us to take up our OWN CROSSES, and have a BIT to say about being peacful compassionate and REASONING together.
The Koran does not HAVE a so called New Testament,..it is rife with instruction to corner the ifnfidel and Kill Him~!
WE ARE ALL THE INFIDEL TO THE MUSLIME BELIEVERS~
Wait about say a Year or Two and take note of the IMPACT the followers of Terrorist and Child Abusing PERVO PERP Mohammed make on our FORMER way of life~!!
THESE PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE, They will ensure that all those here with the Brains God Gave Tehm undertstand how seriously DRIVEN TO DESTROY US THEY ARE.
Save this message and in that two year span Glance at it occasionaly~!!
wendy
12-02-2002, 04:11 PM
Mikey, with all due respect...you've lost your freaking mind. Do you personally KNOW any Muslims? Have you ever spend any amount of time living in a Muslim country?
So you became an expert by reading a transliteration of the Qur'an?
buzaw
12-02-2002, 04:27 PM
It's regulated by the board of governors...which are people chosen by congress. The post office only receives federal funds in limited situations...like last year for clean up of anthrax contaminated buildings and machines to "clean" the mail. They receive funds for free mailings..like the military postage free service and the free stuff for the blind and of course, the 'free" political mailings from your congressmen and senators. As for the first class stamps you buy, they are subsidized by the mass mailers. The postal service wouldn't survive without bulk rate mail. Do you really think they could send a letter from Atlanta to Alaska for 37cents? ;)
It is still government. It is the US POSTAL SERVICE. It is not a private enterprise. It is Congress who decides who runs it. It is run by appointed government officials. Sure it's mailings pay for a large portion of it's expences. But that was always the case. It is a reorganized government entity.
buzaw
12-02-2002, 04:31 PM
It is ONLY a Muslim stamp - NOT a TERROROST stamp.
Maybe it is an effort to help folks differentiate betwixt the two. There IS a difference, you know.
There is no more difference between Islam and terrorism than there is between Muhammed and Islam. Have you ever studied the life of Muhammed? He was a terrorist who terrorized and killed thousands and his writings including the Quran encourage and teach terrorism.
buzaw
12-02-2002, 04:44 PM
IVE READ THE KORAN,..and must therefore inform one and ALL that those who are not aso called RADICAL ISLIMICS arent paying ATTENTION to the ORDERS IN the BOOK,..they are NOT FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS... the so called RADICALS have READ the Book and Are Acting upon the Principles and direct orders therein~!!!
Bingo! The terrorists are the most devout who follow the closest to the example of their prophet and to his commandments as well as those of his desciples who followed him. After the death of Muhammed many Muslims wanted out, but the close desciples of Muhammed as well as his relatives forced them to remain Muslim or die. According to Islamic law, one you become a Muslim you remain for life or you die as a heretic. During the dark ages of the inquisitions Roman Catholicism had this same rule. My understanding is that the Vatican has never rescinded this RCC law.
THE STAMP IS IN EXTREMELY EXTREMELY POOR TASTE AT BEST~and AS THE CHRISTMAS TREE HAS NO CORROLARY ON THE ISLIMIC TRADITION ---so called it is ALSO a rather STUPID and CLUMSY CONCEPT to even HAVE MADE A MUSLIME CHRISTMAS STAMP~RE RAMADAN!!!!! I gotta agree.
buzaw
12-02-2002, 05:02 PM
Have you read the Bible at all? Kill, Kill, Kill, the non-Hebrews, take their women as your own and rape them to get them pregnant. Oh yeah such a peaceful religion there.
There were only very rare occasions where Jews were allowed to marry pagans. Rape was not sanctioned by Israeli conquerors and according to history not a practice.
The OT conquests by the Jews has a lot to do with whether Jehovah is really the supreme god of the universe and if the Bible is his book. The orders to conquer were given to a specific nation for Jehovah to establish his name and his authority over the false pagan gods of his creation. Note also that he allowed his own people to be slaughtered when he himself raised up Nebuchadnezzar, pagan king of Babylon to conquer Jehovah's nation, Israel for their idolatries, etc.
As been posted, the Christian prophet/saviour/lord Jesus allowed for no killing of the pagan of heretics or of infidels, contrary to the teachings of Muhammed.
Meshuga Mikey
12-02-2002, 05:04 PM
Mikey, with all due respect...you've lost your freaking mind. Do you personally KNOW any Muslims? Have you ever spend any amount of time living in a Muslim country?
So you became an expert by reading a transliteration of the Qur'an?
AS a matter of fact,, My Secind Marriage,..was to a Young woman who had MUSLIM Parents. She left Afghanistan at the age of fiteen back in the 1970's, when they became aware of the Soviet threat.
They sent their children to AMERICA. My marriage ENDED when I had an Argument with my then Moither In Law who went on a GREAT LENGTH about her being a proud Muslim woman et,..etc ...etc,..
I have read several versions or Translations of the KORAN -----since the FIRST WTC. BOMB attack. These people are serious about Following that book and we had best not make any assumptions to the contrary. THEY HAVE A STONE AGE MENTALITY,..even the ARABS that have managed to gain some measure ofwestern WEALTH from the balck Gold in thier stinking desert~!!!
Mohammed was a SICK BOY, he formed a sick Religion at the Balde of a sword and they have not altered their positions, they just got REAL GOOD AT HIDING, and playing Nice Nice until fairly recently~!!
TIME as always,... will bear this out~ STAY TUNED~!!!!
But wendya, that's the point. You shouldn't put men on a pedastal because they will always fall.
Look at me. I'm like the worst Christian - ever. How would you like it if I were the chosen leader for all fundies?
Maybe that is what the fundies need, a universal recognized leader. Even though Paul was a man and very human, I bet you pour over every word he wrote.
It is ONLY a Muslim stamp - NOT a TERROROST stamp.
Maybe it is an effort to help folks differentiate betwixt the two. There IS a difference, you know.
There is no more difference between Islam and terrorism than there is between Muhammed and Islam. Have you ever studied the life of Muhammed? He was a terrorist who terrorized and killed thousands and his writings including the Quran encourage and teach terrorism.
You talk like Pat Robertson. Has it ever crossed your mind that Pat Robertson could be wrong about Islam?
buzaw
12-02-2002, 06:40 PM
You talk like Pat Robertson. Has it ever crossed your mind that Pat Robertson could be wrong about Islam?
Like Mickey, I have done my homework. Pat Robertson may not be my favorite fundie, but he's right on Islam. I have the Quran for reference and reliable documentable information from Islamic soures themselves. Can you document that Muhammed did not kill thousands and enslave other thousands of Jew and other "infidels" as well as Muslim "heretics" who tried to convert out of Islam?
I have 3 books which I would recommend for anyone who wishes to know the truth about Muhammed and Islam.
1. Islam Revealed by Dr. Anis A. Shorrosh (uses only Muslim sources in his book)
2. The Islamic Debate, by Josh McDowell and John Gilchrist
3. Islam Unveiled, The True Desert Storm by Dr. Robert Morey
buzaw
12-02-2002, 06:49 PM
Mikey, with all due respect...you've lost your freaking mind. Do you personally KNOW any Muslims? Have you ever spend any amount of time living in a Muslim country?
So you became an expert by reading a transliteration of the Qur'an?
Are you implying that our translations are not reliable Islamic sources? What in them is contrary to Islamic fundamentals?
You talk like Pat Robertson. Has it ever crossed your mind that Pat Robertson could be wrong about Islam?
Like Mickey, I have done my homework. Pat Robertson may not be my favorite fundie, but he's right on Islam. I have the Quran for reference and reliable documentable information from Islamic soures themselves. Can you document that Muhammed did not kill thousands and enslave other thousands of Jew and other "infidels" as well as Muslim "heretics" who tried to convert out of Islam?
I have 3 books which I would recommend for anyone who wishes to know the truth about Muhammed and Islam.
1. Islam Revealed by Dr. Anis A. Shorrosh (uses only Muslim sources in his book)
2. The Islamic Debate, by Josh McDowell and John Gilchrist
3. Islam Unveiled, The True Desert Storm by Dr. Robert Morey
I have not read the Qur'an in its entirety yet. Most Muslims that I know are friendly, peaceful and seem to be good people. I’ve met Christian’s who are the same. I have read the bible and I’m sure you are aware of the wanton bloodshed contained in those pages. I see very little difference in the history of Islam and that of Judaism and Christianity.
buzaw
12-02-2002, 07:15 PM
I have not read the Qur'an in its entirety yet. Most Muslims that I know are friendly, peaceful and seem to be good people. I’ve met Christian’s who are the same. I have read the bible and I’m sure you are aware of the wanton bloodshed contained in those pages. I see very little difference in the history of Islam and that of Judaism and Christianity.
Did you read Mickey's post about the fundamentals of Islam? To be a devout Muslim one must read and know what the prophet himself said, much like in Christianity, we fundies read and follow the words of Jesus. The 19 "martyr" terrorists who flew into the towers were making war against infidels exactly as their prophet did and taught. When these "peaceful" American Muslims eventually find America's majority to be Muslim and the devout take over the leadership of the nation as they have done in about 30 nations so far, they will be taught the fundamentals of the book and many of them will then be willing to also strap explosives to themselves for the cause of the Islamic god Allah and for the advancement of Islam to become what it's suppose to become, i.e. conquerer of the entire planet.
As for the Biblical bloodshed, did you read my post on that? Would you care to respond to that?
Btw, Bug, who are you? Hi, I'm buzsaw, formerly Newsmax's buzzboy. Are you a former Newsmaxian?
I have not read the Qur'an in its entirety yet. Most Muslims that I know are friendly, peaceful and seem to be good people. I’ve met Christian’s who are the same. I have read the bible and I’m sure you are aware of the wanton bloodshed contained in those pages. I see very little difference in the history of Islam and that of Judaism and Christianity.
Did you read Mickey's post about the fundamentals of Islam? To be a devout Muslim one must read and know what the prophet himself said, much like in Christianity, we fundies read and follow the words of Jesus. The 19 "martyr" terrorists who flew into the towers were making war against infidels exactly as their prophet did and taught. When these "peaceful" American Muslims eventually find America's majority to be Muslim and the devout take over the leadership of the nation as they have done in about 30 nations so far, they will be taught the fundamentals of the book and many of them will then be willing to also strap explosives to themselves for the cause of the Islamic god Allah and for the advancement of Islam to become what it's suppose to become, i.e. conquerer of the entire planet.
As for the Biblical bloodshed, did you read my post on that? Would you care to respond to that?
Btw, Bug, who are you? Hi, I'm buzsaw, formerly Newsmax's buzzboy. Are you a former Newsmaxian?
The problem with Islam is they have no recognized universal leader, if they did and they attacked the USA than I would say they are a violent religion. What they have is a book that is interrupted differently by different people to suit their needs. I find it real hard to say as a whole group Islam is a violent religion. The etymological root of islam (s-l-m) is associated with the ideas of peace (salaam) and well-being (salaama), and the implication in a religious context is that a person who submits his or her will completely to the worship of the one God, Allah, finds peace, safety, and salvation. Muslims commonly speak of Islam as “the religion of peace.”
I never was on NewsMax. I’m mainly interested in religion and religions of the world.
Have you read the Bible at all? Kill, Kill, Kill, the non-Hebrews, take their women as your own and rape them to get them pregnant. Oh yeah such a peaceful religion there.
There were only very rare occasions where Jews were allowed to marry pagans. Rape was not sanctioned by Israeli conquerors and according to history not a practice.
The OT conquests by the Jews has a lot to do with whether Jehovah is really the supreme god of the universe and if the Bible is his book. The orders to conquer were given to a specific nation for Jehovah to establish his name and his authority over the false pagan gods of his creation. Note also that he allowed his own people to be slaughtered when he himself raised up Nebuchadnezzar, pagan king of Babylon to conquer Jehovah's nation, Israel for their idolatries, etc.
As been posted, the Christian prophet/saviour/lord Jesus allowed for no killing of the pagan of heretics or of infidels, contrary to the teachings of Muhammed.
Nice apologetics there Buz
wendy
12-02-2002, 07:50 PM
It is still government. It is the US POSTAL SERVICE. It is not a private enterprise. It is Congress who decides who runs it. It is run by appointed government officials. Sure it's mailings pay for a large portion of it's expences. But that was always the case. It is a reorganized government entity.
Buzzy, it's not a government entity. the post office department was reorganized in the 1970's into the united states postal service. Congress has declared the organization must provide universal service but they do not and can not directly interfere in their operation. The postal workers (800,000 of them) are NOT government employees. They do not receive federal benefits nor are they under the federal retirement system.
The USPS was removed from government service because congress was using it to curry favor and buy votes.
Meshuga Mikey
12-02-2002, 07:55 PM
It is still government. It is the US POSTAL SERVICE. It is not a private enterprise. It is Congress who decides who runs it. It is run by appointed government officials. Sure it's mailings pay for a large portion of it's expences. But that was always the case. It is a reorganized government entity.
Buzzy, it's not a government entity. the post office department was reorganized in the 1970's into the united states postal service. Congress has declared the organization must provide universal service but they do not and can not directly interfere in their operation. The postal workers (800,000 of them) are NOT government employees. They do not receive federal benefits nor are they under the federal retirement system.
The USPS was removed from government service because congress was using it to curry favor and buy votes.
I DO IMAGINE that The SALE OF these STAMPS is SANCTIONED by the United States Government , regardless of the ownership of the USPS Would You think?
More From S. Cal On Islime LUV~!!!
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buzaw
12-02-2002, 08:27 PM
It is still government. It is the US POSTAL SERVICE. It is not a private enterprise. It is Congress who decides who runs it. It is run by appointed government officials. Sure it's mailings pay for a large portion of it's expences. But that was always the case. It is a reorganized government entity.
Buzzy, it's not a government entity. the post office department was reorganized in the 1970's into the united states postal service. Congress has declared the organization must provide universal service but they do not and can not directly interfere in their operation. The postal workers (800,000 of them) are NOT government employees. They do not receive federal benefits nor are they under the federal retirement system.
The USPS was removed from government service because congress was using it to curry favor and buy votes.
Wouldn't you have to agree that Congress does in fact control it by appointing it's managers? It is not privately owned. Yes or no? The government mandates that it exist. It cannot cease to exist without government approval. The government funds what it cannot earn. In reality it is, imo, a government entity.
wendy
12-03-2002, 04:41 PM
Wouldn't you have to agree that Congress does in fact control it by appointing it's managers? It is not privately owned. Yes or no? The government mandates that it exist. It cannot cease to exist without government approval. The government funds what it cannot earn. In reality it is, imo, a government entity.
Congress does not appoint postal managers.
It IS owned by the federal government but it operates as a fee for service organization. The only time it receives money from the fed is when they MANDATE that the post office must deliver "free" mailings. The so-called free mailings are, of course, not free at all but taxpayer subsidized. This was agreed to by congress duiring reorganization. They wanted the free mailings to continue..the unions told congress they would have to foot the bill.
The post office is one of the few constitutionally authorized services of the government. Think about that next time you want to gripe about the post office. It used to be totally controlled by congress until the postal reorganization act. The USPS was reformed to KEEP the government from using it for the political benefit of congressmen. The operational authority of the USPS does not come from congress. They cannot force the post office to print or not print any particular stamp. They have NO say in it whatsoever.
Meshuga Mikey
12-03-2002, 04:53 PM
It is still government. It is the US POSTAL SERVICE. It is not a private enterprise. It is Congress who decides who runs it. It is run by appointed government officials. Sure it's mailings pay for a large portion of it's expences. But that was always the case. It is a reorganized government entity.
Buzzy, it's not a government entity. the post office department was reorganized in the 1970's into the united states postal service. Congress has declared the organization must provide universal service but they do not and can not directly interfere in their operation. The postal workers (800,000 of them) are NOT government employees. They do not receive federal benefits nor are they under the federal retirement system.
The USPS was removed from government service because congress was using it to curry favor and buy votes.
Wouldn't you have to agree that Congress does in fact control it by appointing it's managers? It is not privately owned. Yes or no? The government mandates that it exist. It cannot cease to exist without government approval. The government funds what it cannot earn. In reality it is, imo, a government entity.
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SHAZAAAAAAAAAAAAM~!!!
buzaw
12-03-2002, 06:27 PM
Well, Wendy you said the USPS was regulated by people chosen by Congress. You said it was owned by the government.
I said it was a government entity. You said it wasn't a government entity. Looks to me like it's "he said, she said." Wanta call it a draw? ;D
wendy
12-03-2002, 08:51 PM
Well, Wendy you said the USPS was regulated by people chosen by Congress. You said it was owned by the government.
I said it was a government entity. You said it wasn't a government entity. Looks to me like it's "he said, she said." Wanta call it a draw? ;D
Buzz, it is NOT controlled by congress. That was the whole point of this lame butt thread. Congress has no authority over the post office. It was changed to make sure congress COULD NOT interfere with the operations of the post office. Congress can't order them to print a stamp or to not print a stamp. It's out of their hands. All they can do is refuse to fund the political mailings and free mailings in which case the post office is under no obligation to deliver it.
Meshuga Mikey
12-06-2002, 05:15 PM
Well, Wendy you said the USPS was regulated by people chosen by Congress. You said it was owned by the government.
I said it was a government entity. You said it wasn't a government entity. Looks to me like it's "he said, she said." Wanta call it a draw? ;D
Where can I invest in this private corporation,..to affect it's more BOGUS decisions form the INSIDE??
Buzz, it is NOT controlled by congress. That was the whole point of this lame butt thread. Congress has no authority over the post office. It was changed to make sure congress COULD NOT interfere with the operations of the post office. Congress can't order them to print a stamp or to not print a stamp. It's out of their hands. All they can do is refuse to fund the political mailings and free mailings in which case the post office is under no obligation to deliver it.
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