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Conservinator
12-09-2004, 01:24 PM
INSURGENTS GONE IN A YEAR

Iraq's Interim President Ghazi al-Yawar gave an interview to CNN yesterday. In it, he said that he sees no reason why the insurgents fighting in Iraq won't be gone in a year, saying "I think one year from now, exactly, we'll be very busy preparing for our free democratic election after we have a constitution." That doesn't square with the pessimistic view in the media that the war in Iraq is somehow a failure, now does it?

And what about the Vietnam comparisons? We've been hearing for almost 2 years now that Iraq is another Vietnam....a quagmire. No matter that the war in Vietnam lasted for decades and had 50 times more casualties. So the interim president also addressed that: "We're not fighting a Viet Cong, which has principles and popular support. We are fighting Saddam loyalists. ... They know they are fighting for a losing battle. The whole Iraqi population is against them. I'm sick and tired of them." Doesn't sound like they'll last too long, does it?

So how long are American troops going to stay? Until enough Iraqis are trained to replace them. Sounds like things are going pretty well in Iraq, doesn't it? That's right, they are. Remember when people said tens of thousands of U.S. troops would die in the fall of Baghdad? It didn't happen. Remember when people said the transfer of sovereignty would never take place? It happened early. Interim Constitution? Agreed upon.

Elections? They'll happen next month, right on time. Looks like the Bush-haters are going to have to find a new line of work.

Link (http://boortz.com/nuze/200412/12092004.html#insurgents)

LanceALott
12-09-2004, 01:41 PM
Why don't you ever go out on a limb?

Conservinator
12-09-2004, 05:05 PM
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LanceALott
12-10-2004, 08:48 AM
What is the mental illness called for self imposed blindness?

Whiskey4bfast
12-10-2004, 09:35 AM
Why don't you ever go out on a limb?
So you can saw it off? ???

Whiskey4bfast
12-10-2004, 09:37 AM
What is the mental illness called for self imposed blindness?
Wyoming

Conservinator
12-10-2004, 10:22 AM
Lance-A-Lott Posted on: Today at 07:48:00 AM

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jAfO
12-10-2004, 10:23 AM
INSURGENTS GONE IN A YEAR

Iraq's Interim President Ghazi al-Yawar gave an interview to CNN yesterday. In it, he said that he sees no reason why the insurgents fighting in Iraq won't be gone in a year, saying "I think one year from now, exactly, we'll be very busy preparing for our free democratic election after we have a constitution." That doesn't square with the pessimistic view in the media that the war in Iraq is somehow a failure, now does it?

Iraq's Interim President, you don't think this guy has a vested interest in putting the best face he possibly can on the situation, do ya?javascript:replaceText('%20::)')


And what about the Vietnam comparisons? We've been hearing for almost 2 years now that Iraq is another Vietnam....a quagmire. No matter that the war in Vietnam lasted for decades and had 50 times more casualties. So the interim president also addressed that: "We're not fighting a Viet Cong, which has principles and popular support. We are fighting Saddam loyalists. ... They know they are fighting for a losing battle. The whole Iraqi population is against them. I'm sick and tired of them." Doesn't sound like they'll last too long, does it?

It took Vietnam years to develop into what it eventually became. Saying that Iraq can't develop into another Vietnam because we haven't lost that many troops yet is blind and a little bit stupid. As for what he said at the end, it sounds a lot like what Ngo Dinh Diem might have said.


So how long are American troops going to stay? Until enough Iraqis are trained to replace them. Sounds like things are going pretty well in Iraq, doesn't it? That's right, they are. Remember when people said tens of thousands of U.S. troops would die in the fall of Baghdad? It didn't happen. Remember when people said the transfer of sovereignty would never take place? It happened early. Interim Constitution? Agreed upon.

Elections? They'll happen next month, right on time. Looks like the Bush-haters are going to have to find a new line of work.

Link (http://boortz.com/nuze/200412/12092004.html#insurgents)



They had elections in Vietnam too. The elections themselves aren't going to stop the problems in Iraq any more than they stopped them in Vietnam. The issue isn't having the elections, it is whether or not those elections will be seen as valid by the Iraqi people. As things stand now with the increasing violence and the very real possibility that the Sunnis will be left out in the new government things aren't nearly as rosy as you would like them to be. We can still pull this one out, although our chances of doing so get dimmer every day we deny the realities of what is going on over there, but we have some very stark realities to face before that happens.

LanceALott
12-10-2004, 10:44 AM
It took Vietnam years to develop into what it eventually became. Saying that Iraq can't develop into another Vietnam because we haven't lost that many troops yet is blind and a little bit stupid.


Check out the body count of US soldiers in the first two years after the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (Where the US went to war in Vietnam). I don't know the numbers, but it was far below the 1,300 we already have killed in Iraq.

And in those two years, we did not have close to 150,000 troops in Nam.