Where do we put the mass graves?

Household Survey Sees 100,000 Iraqi Deaths

LONDON - A survey of deaths in Iraqi households estimates that as many as 100,000 more people may have died throughout the country in the 18 months after the U.S. invasion than would be expected based on the death rate before the war.

There is no official figure for the number of Iraqis killed since the conflict began, but some non-governmental estimates range from 10,000 to 30,000. As of Wednesday, 1,081 U.S. servicemen had been killed, according to the U.S. Defense Department.

The scientists who wrote the report concede that the data they based their projections on were of "limited precision," because the quality of the information depends on the accuracy of the household interviews used for the study. The interviewers were Iraqi, most of them doctors.

Designed and conducted by researchers at Johns Hopkins University, Columbia University and the Al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad, the study is being published Thursday on the Web site of The Lancet medical journal.

The survey indicated violence accounted for most of the extra deaths seen since the invasion, and air strikes from coalition forces caused most of the violent deaths, the researchers wrote in the British-based journal.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=6&u=/ap/20041028/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_death_toll_4

[WCP]

Don't shoot at, don't get shot.

Lay down your weapons.

[the bib]

Household Survey Sees 100,000 Iraqi Deaths

LONDON - A survey of deaths in Iraqi households estimates that as many as 100,000 more people may have died throughout the country in the 18 months after the U.S. invasion than would be expected based on the death rate before the war.

There is no official figure for the number of Iraqis killed since the conflict began, but some non-governmental estimates range from 10,000 to 30,000. As of Wednesday, 1,081 U.S. servicemen had been killed, according to the U.S. Defense Department.

The scientists who wrote the report concede that the data they based their projections on were of "limited precision," because the quality of the information depends on the accuracy of the household interviews used for the study. The interviewers were Iraqi, most of them doctors.

Designed and conducted by researchers at Johns Hopkins University, Columbia University and the Al-Mustansiriya University in Baghdad, the study is being published Thursday on the Web site of The Lancet medical journal.

The survey indicated violence accounted for most of the extra deaths seen since the invasion, and air strikes from coalition forces caused most of the violent deaths, the researchers wrote in the British-based journal.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=6&u=/ap/20041028/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_death_toll_4


Your heart bleeding for the wrong side is getting very tiresome pepsi.

If YOU KNOW so much about how to make things perfect, why the hell are you HERE and not THERE elucidating THEM with your profound intellect? ::)

Your heart bleeding for the wrong side is getting very tiresome pepsi.



Its not me who made the case for invading Iraq because of mass graves. I was against this war.

[wendy]

Another survey where a bunch of leftists take a wild guess in order to justify keeping Hussein in power. Everyone knows that a dictator is ALLOWED to kill his own people since leftists believe that people are nothing more than property of the state.

[the bib]

Its not me who made the case for invading Iraq because of mass graves. I was against this war.


The case stands. You haven't a clue and worse, you choose to remain clueless. You kvetch and moan but contribute nothing but ignorant attacks and negative prognostications.

Like I said, you are getting tiresome.

[Thunder Bay]

If we'd nuked 'em, where they were standing would have sufficed. ::)

[Larry_Oldtimer]

The scientists who wrote the report concede that the data they based their projections on were of "limited precision," because the quality of the information depends on the accuracy of the household interviews used for the study.

"Limited precision" I guess. Another way of saying that it is a wild guess. And whenever terrorists are killed, the liberal media proclaims them to be "innocent civilians" in any event. So do any surviving members of their families for that matter. At best, anecdotal, which is worthless. But these are folks in London, and what could be expected of them anyway?

Of course, the liberals would like to forget the reports from "refugees" leaving Kosovo, who told tales of the mass killings of somewhere between 100,000 and 250,000 "ethnic" Albanians by the Serbs in the Kosovo fiasco. The liberal media ate this up, and the idiot general Wesley Clark offered it up any number of times to "justify" the attack by NATO on Serbia. After it was all over, how many mass graves of "ethnic" Albanians did forensic scientists find, after extensive exploration, in either Kosovo or the rest of Serbia? Not a single one. It is true that liberals NEVER learn from experience.

[Giancarlo]

100,000 seems like a grossly overstated figure.

what about the millions that would die if we follow the Kerry/Pepsi plan of cut and run?

[Jethro Tull]

The scientists who wrote the report concede that the data they based their projections on were of "limited precision," because the quality of the information depends on the accuracy of the household interviews used for the study.

"Limited precision" I guess. Another way of saying that it is a wild guess. And whenever terrorists are killed, the liberal media proclaims them to be "innocent civilians" in any event. So do any surviving members of their families for that matter. At best, anecdotal, which is worthless. But these are folks in London, and what could be expected of them anyway?

Of course, the liberals would like to forget the reports from "refugees" leaving Kosovo, who told tales of the mass killings of somewhere between 100,000 and 250,000 "ethnic" Albanians by the Serbs in the Kosovo fiasco. The liberal media ate this up, and the idiot general Wesley Clark offered it up any number of times to "justify" the attack by NATO on Serbia. After it was all over, how many mass graves of "ethnic" Albanians did forensic scientists find, after extensive exploration, in either Kosovo or the rest of Serbia? Not a single one. It is true that liberals NEVER learn from experience.



Just so, Larry. Pepsi merely presents more lies, and assumes they are true because he didn't make them up personally.

In fact, there is ZERO evidence to back up these wild assertions, but that is a benchmark of Kerry and his toadies.

[Annie04]

If we'd nuked 'em, where they were standing would have sufficed. ::)
>:(

[FFWBecky]

If we'd nuked 'em, where they were standing would have sufficed. ::)


Hear, hear.

[LanceALott]

I WONDER HOW MANY OF THE MASS GRAVES WERE PUT THERE BY DADDY BUSH'S GULF WAR I?

It is easy, perhaps even necessary for some, to say they were killed by Saddam, but were they?

[Flyrod]

We put the mass graves at the doorsteps of Pepsi, LaL, etc... for these Hanoi Janes generous giving of "strength and comfort to the enemy, in time of war". eh!!

[LanceALott]

We put the mass graves at the doorsteps of Pepsi, LaL, etc... for these Hanoi Janes generous giving of "strength and comfort to the enemy, in time of war". eh!!


Are you some kind of criminal who has no conscience? -- A criminal who fears me, Pepsi, Jane and other HUMAN BEINGS WHO DO HAVE A CONSCIENCE?


AND IF YOU DON'T FEAR US LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS WITH A CONSCIENCE, THEN YOU ARE A FOOL WHO SHOULD!

[Thunder Bay]

>:(





Awww, lighten up, Annie....I doubt we'll ever do it correctly. ;D

[Thunder Bay]

Hear, hear.





;D

Its not me who made the case for invading Iraq because of mass graves. I was against this war.


Who over here gives a shit what you're for or against? Other then one or two deluded leftist commies that hang out here. You're here to throw a turd in the punch bowl that's all, that's your purpose and reason for being. You sure as hell don't add anything.

Who over here gives a shit what you're for or against? Other then one or two deluded leftist commies that hang out here. You're here to throw a turd in the punch bowl that's all, that's your purpose and reason for being. You sure as hell don't add anything.


and this is your typical commentary.. lame personal attacks. ::)

[Thunder Bay]

and this is your typical commentary.. lame personal attacks. ::)





Hey, you didn't cut and paste; good work. Well, may the best lawyers win. ;D

[Annie04]

Awww, lighten up, Annie....I doubt we'll ever do it correctly. ;D


I'm light! ;D