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Persephone
10-10-2004, 10:37 AM
Does anybody have one of those ionizing air purifiers? Do they work? Are they worth it?

wendy
10-10-2004, 10:38 AM
I'd like to know that as well. Are they as effective as a hepa filter?

WCP
10-10-2004, 10:39 AM
Does anybody have one of those ionizing air purifiers? Do they work? Are they worth it?


<frantically waving hand> I do!!

Not Ionic Breeze, but I have a better one. It's the kind that professionals use in fire and smoke damaged buildings.

They work. Not worth it, though.

WCP
10-10-2004, 10:41 AM
I'd like to know that as well. Are they as effective as a hepa filter?


They are FAR more effective than a HEPA filter and a fraction of the cost to operate. Some of those HEPA's cost almost $75 per month in electricity to operate. I shit you not!! Plus the pre-filter (charcoal) and the HEPA ain't no chump change to replace, either.

Persephone
10-10-2004, 10:43 AM
<frantically waving hand> I do!!

Not Ionic Breeze, but I have a better one. It's the kind that professionals use in fire and smoke damaged buildings.

They work. Not worth it, though.


They have a sale on them right now at the mall. Buy one, get one half off. It comes to about $400 for two. Maybe a little more. I was wondering how much they would help with allergies.

NorNec
10-10-2004, 10:43 AM
They are FAR more effective than a HEPA filter and a fraction of the cost to operate. Some of those HEPA's cost almost $75 per month in electricity to operate. I shit you not!! Plus the pre-filter (charcoal) and the HEPA ain't no chump change to replace, either.



you live in a trailor...how much could that cost?

NorNec
10-10-2004, 10:44 AM
They have a sale on them right now at the mall. Buy one, get one half off. It comes to about $400 for two. Maybe a little more. I was wondering how much they would help with allergies.



Check out the Oreck..

wendy
10-10-2004, 10:46 AM
They are FAR more effective than a HEPA filter and a fraction of the cost to operate. Some of those HEPA's cost almost $75 per month in electricity to operate. I shit you not!! Plus the pre-filter (charcoal) and the HEPA ain't no chump change to replace, either.


What exactly do they remove from the air?

I've got a mechanical cleaner on the furnace with UV lights and I run hepa cleaners in the bedrooms. That has saved my ass during allergy season and I haven't had an upper respiratory infection in ages.

WCP
10-10-2004, 10:46 AM
They have a sale on them right now at the mall. Buy one, get one half off. It comes to about $400 for two. Maybe a little more. I was wondering how much they would help with allergies.


http://www.livingairflair.com/

This is the one I've got that covers 3,500 sq. feet...not that I need it for that, but some day I might. Works through walls so you don't need two of them. I know the local dealer in this area so I can get it for you for cost if you're interested.

It does help with allergies. You can probably get your doctor to issue you a prescription for one.

Persephone
10-10-2004, 10:47 AM
Check out the Oreck..



Oreck is also running the buy one, get one half off sale.

http://www.oreck.com/air-purifiers/air8.cfm?bclick=36

Plus, they have a 90 day trial period.

There is an Oreck store here. I might have to check it out.

Persephone
10-10-2004, 10:49 AM
What exactly do they remove from the air?

I've got a mechanical cleaner on the furnace with UV lights and I run hepa cleaners in the bedrooms. That has saved my ass during allergy season and I haven't had an upper respiratory infection in ages.


Sharper Image makes an ionizer with UV.


http://www.sharperimage.com/us/en/catalog/productview/sku=SI830SNX/hppos=3

WCP
10-10-2004, 10:49 AM
What exactly do they remove from the air?

I've got a mechanical cleaner on the furnace with UV lights and I run hepa cleaners in the bedrooms. That has saved my ass during allergy season and I haven't had an upper respiratory infection in ages.


What they basically do is they charge the "dust" particles with a positive ion and cause them to not float all around the place. Makes them drop to the surface and not get disturbed.

They also have a "filter" (kind of) that causes certain particulates to adhere to the plate inside of the unit.

Persephone
10-10-2004, 10:51 AM
http://www.livingairflair.com/

This is the one I've got that covers 3,500 sq. feet...not that I need it for that, but some day I might. Works through walls so you don't need two of them. I know the local dealer in this area so I can get it for you for cost if you're interested.

It does help with allergies. You can probably get your doctor to issue you a prescription for one.


I think the ones I was looking at only claim to clean one room at a time. It might be worth paying more for the whole house version.

WCP
10-10-2004, 10:51 AM
you live in a trailor...how much could that cost?


I don't think the filter figures out "Oh, gee whiz...this asshole lives in a trailer so don't use as much electricity," dumb shit. ::)

NorNec
10-10-2004, 10:51 AM
Oreck is the only one that I have seen that actually moves the air.

lgllady
10-10-2004, 11:47 AM
I had a sharper image quadra for awhile. I got it at a garage sale for $5.00! It finally up and died after about a year. But, it worked GREAT while I had it! It did the whole house, but I live in a postage stamp sized house. I have two cats and a dog in my 500 sq ft and there was no smell at all, not even at the cat box. Since Quadra died, I got a couple of the True Air filters that just plug into the wall, and they work okay in small areas, and all I got are small areas.

To remove a bad odor, I got one of the new Oust battery operated air cleaners and it works too. I put on by the litter box, and I have one in my shop.

truelies
10-10-2004, 11:53 AM
They are FAR more effective than a HEPA filter and a fraction of the cost to operate. Some of those HEPA's cost almost $75 per month in electricity to operate. I shit you not!! Plus the pre-filter (charcoal) and the HEPA ain't no chump change to replace, either.


Hey Guardian - he quoted verbatim a Copyrighted Ad without giving either a LINK or credit. Please ban his ass for two weeks.


;D

tileman
10-10-2004, 02:10 PM
Have the sharper image one and you definitely notice the difference in the room that it's in.

Works thru walls eh Bad?.... ;D Man you'll buy anything won't ya!! ;D

Flyrod
10-14-2004, 04:26 PM
I got 2 ionic breezes about 2 1/2 years ago on sale, and have just used one in room with computer (only other place I smoke is outside), as I smoke about 1.5 packs a day. Figure to use the other when this one quits. Ads say clean every 2 weeks, but with smoke it's every 4 or 5 days. I use a paper towel and Isopropyl alcohol. Imagine cleaning 3 metal grid plates on both sides every 5 days (15 minute job) and and the towel being 75% black. My wife said it got rid of odor better the first six months, but it still has helped her allergies more than 2 big honeywell hepa air filters we had, and then she sold. The ionic breeze is quiet, cheap to operate, slowly moves air thru it, but designed to use 24/7. It eventually cleans air in whole house with central H&A, but definitely not a whole house air cleaner (still helps more than hepa). With no smoke, cleaning would be every 2 weeks and probably a 2 minute job with a damp towel. I think they used to have a 60 day period to return and get refund, if not satisfied. Philips makes a UV light for kitchen etc.

truelies
10-15-2004, 06:39 AM
.................Anyway thanks for the info on the Ionic Breeze Ive lusted after one for a long time.


Well then just buy it. ;)

truelies
10-15-2004, 05:51 PM
Well give me your visa number TL :) :-*


I would but darn I only have a MasterCard. :(

Flyrod
10-21-2004, 04:38 AM
Flyrod quit smoking for your wife's sake :( . Seriously her allergies could turn into asthma. I have asthma it sucks I am on 8 medicines a day to breathe.

Anyway thanks for the info on the Ionic Breeze Ive lusted after one for a long time.



Sock, my wife's sake? Hell what about me dammit?? Actually we replaced carpet with hardwood floors a couple of years before getting Ionic Breeze. That got rid of a bunch of 'dust mites'! Then I just run a dust mop sprayed with some crap around real quick once or twice a week. Most of dust and mites come from carpets. Wife doesn't take any meds. after getting Ionic Breeze. I have always turned the shower on full blast on very hot each morning shooting the spray up my nose, which gets my attention, wakes me up better than coffee, and also clears out my sinuses for the rest of the day. One guy I told about this, said that might kill a normal person? I wasn't sure how to take the SOB's comment? Anyway wife and I doing fine, thank you!!

tileman
10-22-2004, 08:45 AM
:P Quit smoking anyway.....


Yeah pissing moaning and sticking your nose in other people's business is SO much more attractive and healthy.... ;D

ponygurl
10-24-2004, 03:51 AM
Americans love to do whatever they want and give the bill to someone else.

Tis true in Canada as well..
It's funny.. my Dad.. oxygen tubes in his nose, painkillers up his wazzoo, and inhalers every 4 hrs.. STILL swore till he day he died smoking never affected him. :(
My sister actually spent a fair amount of time quite angry with my Dad, whom she adored.. for smoking..she feels it cut her time short with him..
All I know is you cannot force anyone to quit smoking. Love them like they are.

truelies
10-24-2004, 06:42 AM
....now I have the lung function of a 80 year old...............


Geez I had no idea your asthma was that bad, :(

truelies
10-24-2004, 07:05 AM
Yep it pretty much is horrible. All from second hand smoke oh boy! Nice going Dad!


We have never allowed anyone to smoke in our house when the kids are around. My MIL thinks I am an assh**e who does that just to piss her off. She is sooooo very wrong. When I wanted to piss her off I played Rush Limbaugh's radio program during dinner with her.

There are ways of dealing with second hand smoke- at least in the work place. I once worked with a guy (this was before the Bans on indoor smoking at work became popular) who at times smoked a brand of cigar that would cause my sinuses to swell & close in seconds. I would have to fight to breathe. Many times I literally begged this ass to not smoke those things near me. No luck. One morning about 10am when I am in a foul mood anyway he waltzes into our work area from a meeting & up to my desk with a coffee cup in one hand and THAT cigar in his pie hole.........THE LOOK on his face when I jerked the cigar out of mouth and doused it in his coffee cup was PRICELESS.

Of course I damn near got terminated, but he finally the hint to keep those cigars away from me.

ponygurl
10-24-2004, 01:58 PM
We have never allowed anyone to smoke in our house when the kids are around. My MIL thinks I am an assh**e who does that just to piss her off. She is sooooo very wrong. When I wanted to piss her off I played Rush Limbaugh's radio program during dinner with her.

There are ways of dealing with second hand smoke- at least in the work place. I once worked with a guy (this was before the Bans on indoor smoking at work became popular) who at times smoked a brand of cigar that would cause my sinuses to swell & close in seconds. I would have to fight to breathe. Many times I literally begged this ass to not smoke those things near me. No luck. One morning about 10am when I am in a foul mood anyway he waltzes into our work area from a meeting & up to my desk with a coffee cup in one hand and THAT cigar in his pie hole.........THE LOOK on his face when I jerked the cigar out of mouth and doused it in his coffee cup was PRICELESS.

Of course I damn near got terminated, but he finally the hint to keep those cigars away from me.

You realize, of course.. driving to work in traffic and breathing exhaust is just as detrimental?

truelies
10-24-2004, 02:17 PM
You realize, of course.. driving to work in traffic and breathing exhaust is just as detrimental?


Not in Wichita. Our absolute worst rushhour is on a par with a major US City at 9am on a Sunday morning- the quietest traffic hour of the week.

ponygurl
10-24-2004, 02:20 PM
Something about living in a farm community that cracks me up...old farmers think they are indestructable.. they spray fields on tractors with no cabs, no masks.. just suckin' it all in..

truelies
10-24-2004, 02:26 PM
Something about living in a farm community that cracks me up...old farmers think they are indestructable.. they spray fields on tractors with no cabs, no masks.. just suckin' it all in..


I have seen local good ole boys stitch up gaping wounds with needle, thread and nothing more. Kath would love watching farmer first aid at harvest time around here. :o

PackerFan
10-25-2004, 11:55 AM
Not in Wichita. Our absolute worst rushhour is on a par with a major US City at 9am on a Sunday morning- the quietest traffic hour of the week.

Do you'all still stop at the end of merging on-ramps too even though there is no stop sign?

ponygurl
10-25-2004, 01:46 PM
I have seen local good ole boys stitch up gaping wounds with needle, thread and nothing more. Kath would love watching farmer first aid at harvest time around here. :o

My brother had his thumb stitched like that .. but i was too young to remember.. I just heard the stories..
I can remember my mother stitching a baby pig on the kitchen table though. ;D

truelies
11-22-2004, 05:23 PM
How much is it at cost? Now that I am rid of the wall to wall carpet I am hoping my asthma and allergies will get better.


Years ago when we got rid of the carpets that were covering some nice hardwork floors, the family quota of runny noses and itchy eyes took a drastic and permanent nose dive.